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Can we sue this organization for stupid ideas?
1 posted on 09/04/2003 11:02:41 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf
No but we should deport their clients immediately.

By the way, paragraphs are your friend.
2 posted on 09/04/2003 11:06:16 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: CJ Wolf
ok before you mention it I know paragrahs are our friends:


A group of Hispanic illegal immigrants sued seven state colleges and universities yesterday in federal court, claiming the schools denied them admission because of their immigration status.


The lawsuit, made public yesterday, says the schools' presidents and rectors are following ill-conceived legal advice from state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore, who last fall issued an opinion recommending that all Virginia colleges deny admission to illegal immigrants and suggesting that admissions officers report potentially illegal applicants to federal authorities.


The schools are George Mason University, James Madison University, University of Virginia, Virginia Tech, Virginia Commonwealth University (VCU), the Northern Virginia Community College system and the College of William & Mary.


Andres Tobar, co-chairman of the Immigrant Legal Rights Coalition, said Mr. Kilgore's policy punishes hundreds of high school students whose illegal status is no fault of their own, inasmuch as they were brought to the United States by their parents.


"We can't deny a whole generation of students the rights to an education," he said. "As you know, it takes eight to 10 years to open the doors to be legal ... [but now students] in fifth, sixth, eighth, and 10th grade are seeing the doors [to education] being closed."


Marlinda Palpido, of Alexandria, agreed. Mrs. Palpido, 33, said she wouldn't be where she is now if she hadn't graduated from Virginia Tech with a degree in electrical engineering in 1996. Mrs. Palpido was an illegal immigrant until she got married in 1997.


"I am now working as an engineer as a Navy contractor, but if they had closed the doors, I would probably be a nanny or a cook," she said.


Mr. Kilgore said through a spokesman that he will defend the schools.


"It seems as if they are attempting to force Virginia colleges and universities to accept illegal aliens," spokesman Timothy Murtaugh said. Mr. Kilgore, a Republican, was out of town on business yesterday and could not be reached for comment.


Five of the six plaintiffs are identified only as Jane Doe I, II and III and John Doe I and II, and either attend or have graduated from Virginia public high schools. The other plaintiff is Equal Access Education, a group of Northern Virginia immigrants and their families and friends.


The identities of the five students, all of whom are natives of Central and South American countries, were not revealed because none of them are U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents, according to the lawsuit.


attorneys said in a written statement that some of the students affected by Mr. Kilgore's stance have Social Security numbers and work authorizations and pay federal and state taxes.


Tisha Tallman, regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), said some of them hold Temporary Protective Status visas, but had not been granted permanent residence. MALDEF is a civil rights organization that is spearheading the lawsuit.


Larry Hincker, associate vice president of university relations for Virginia Tech, said the university would not have denied admission to students based on their immigration status. But he said students would have been ineligible to enroll until they presented proper documentation proving legal residence.


Pam Lebley, a spokeswoman for VCU, said her school did not admit illegal immigrants without proper documentation.


Officials from the five other schools referred calls to Mr. Kilgore's office.


Ms. Tallman said Mr. Kilgore's opinion usurps the role of federal immigration authorities, as delegated by Congress.


Mr. Murtaugh said Virginia is not trying to set immigration policy, but rather to ensure everyone follows the law. "These anonymous plaintiffs are readily admitting they are not following the law," he said. "It's unfair to those who have followed the process legally."


There are no hard numbers on how many illegal immigrants graduate from Virginia schools each year. Immigration advocates said the number is "in the hundreds, not the thousands."


The MALDEF lawsuit does not address the issue of requiring undocumented students to pay out-of-state tuition.

4 posted on 09/04/2003 11:07:12 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf
This couldn't be more insane if came straight from the Onion.
7 posted on 09/04/2003 11:08:24 AM PDT by evad (liberals & lying..It's WHAT they do, it's ALL they do and they WON'T stop...EVER!!)
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To: CJ Wolf
We may as well turn the country over to them; in another two generations they will outnumber us.
8 posted on 09/04/2003 11:09:00 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: CJ Wolf
The proper response should be, "Bailiff, take the plaintiffs into custody."
11 posted on 09/04/2003 11:09:28 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: CJ Wolf
the suit will be throw out without merit
12 posted on 09/04/2003 11:09:34 AM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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To: CJ Wolf
This is crazy. We are enduring a full assault on our national sovereignty, through our court system, by ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL immigrants. ILLRGAL immigrants our using our LEGAL system. What is even more appalling is that this activity is DEFENDED by those who have sworn to uphold and defend our Constitution.
14 posted on 09/04/2003 11:11:31 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: CJ Wolf
"Will the plaintiffs please rise. Bailiff, take 'em away!"
15 posted on 09/04/2003 11:12:32 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: CJ Wolf
The lawyer should be disbarred and held. No court will take an anonymous plaintiff.
17 posted on 09/04/2003 11:13:53 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: CJ Wolf
What part of "illegal" do they not understand?

I'm sure there are several universities in their country of origin that would admit them.
21 posted on 09/04/2003 11:20:18 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: CJ Wolf
Why don't WE, sue the illegals?
22 posted on 09/04/2003 11:24:39 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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How does an 'illegal immigrant' even have the right to a civil suit? Will a judge let this lawsuit go forward? Never mind, I'm sure they'll find some lib judge to bend the rules to allow this to go on. I guess they aren't happy with busting the medical and welfare systems, now they have to break our educational system for good measure. This is an attack. There's no blood, no deaths, and no wounded, but it is an attack none the less.
24 posted on 09/04/2003 11:31:11 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: sultan88; jla; Corin Stormhands; Mudboy Slim
You guys seen this????

I hope Jerry Kilgore sticks to his guns on this one. Waaaay, waaay beyond ridiculous.

Illegal is illegal. If they really want to go to Va. Tech, then fill out the d*** paperwork to be legal.
25 posted on 09/04/2003 11:31:36 AM PDT by iceskater
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Deport the illegals. "Illegal" means against the law. They shouldn't be in the country anyway let alone use the judicial system for their own purposes.
26 posted on 09/04/2003 11:35:12 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: CJ Wolf
A group of Hispanic illegal immigrants sued seven state colleges and universities yesterday in federal court...

Why are they not being immediately deported?

32 posted on 09/04/2003 11:50:23 AM PDT by FormerLib (There's no hope on the left!)
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To: CJ Wolf
Legal bump to dump illegals!
35 posted on 09/04/2003 12:18:35 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: CJ Wolf
BOO HOO-why don't they attend MEXICAN universities
36 posted on 09/04/2003 12:37:04 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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Virginia will be paying for the illegals, and offering them better benefits before long. It's only just started Virgina.......Tic tic tic....
43 posted on 09/04/2003 5:45:54 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: joanie-f
"It's started.
Almost right on cue, too.
What a fitting end to what's become known as the 'Gay Summer,' eh?
Why who'd a thunk it!!
:o)
This crap's become so doggone predictable of late.
...anticipating 'em's really no *fun* anymore."

You're feeling very drousy, your head's getting very heavy, you're experience a strange & wonderous deja vu.

...& it *still's* no fun. {g}

46 posted on 09/04/2003 8:07:38 PM PDT by Landru
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