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A Dangerous Man (Cruz Bustamante: Traitor?)
adamyoshida.com ^ | September 4, 2003 | Adam Yoshida

Posted on 09/04/2003 12:33:02 AM PDT by adamyoshida

A Dangerous Man

Cruz Bustamante is a dangerous man. I say this not simply because he is a liberal Democrat, through that is worrying enough, rather I say it because he has well-documented links with a racist group which wants to reverse the results of the Mexican War and tear the Southwest out of the United States. Despite being given ample opportunity to do so, he has yet to renounce these links. He has, in fact, refused to do so. The election of Cruz Bustamante would be yet another step on the road to the creation of a post-American California, a chunk of Mexico entirely subsidized by American dollars. The point of this recall is to throw out Governor Gray Davis. However, I daresay, I would much rather see ol’ Grayout stay on as Governor than have a man in that office whose loyalty to the United States would appear to be questionable at best.

You may think that I am exaggerating. If this is so, it is only because you have yet to learn of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan or MEChA). MEChA attempts to pass itself off as a peaceful student group, ostensibly dedicated to improving educational activities for Latino students. Nothing could be further than the truth: in fact MEChA is a violent and treasonous group whose stated aim is to bring about the destruction of the United States. MEChA’s slogan is, “Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" (Or, in English, “For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing”). Its constitution calls for a, “struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan.” In other words, MEChA’s goal is to rip the Southwest from the United States, by violence if necessary, and to subsequently create an Apartheid state. Members or the organization has openly admitted that, ultimately, they envision the expulsion of all ‘Anglos’ from the Southwest.

During his time as a student as Fresno State University, Bustamante was a member of this group. He claims to have only been a ‘moderate’, which is something akin to claiming to be a ‘moderate Nazi’ or a ‘middle of the road’ white supremacist. That an unrepentant individual with such a history could be the Lieutenant Governor of California, let alone a serious candidate for the office of Governor, is a disgrace. The liberal media seems to think that Arnold Schwarzenegger should be made to answer for the sins of his father. I only wish that they would make Bustamante answer for his own sins.

Too much attention, I think, has been paid to the racial aspects of this. Yes, it is certain despicable that a candidate for Governor would refused to renounce his association with out-and-out racists (a survey of the websites produced by the advocates of ‘Aztlan’ show them to be filled with anti-Semitic, and anti-‘Anglo’ diatribes). But what is in many ways much more concerning is the fact that Bustamante has never renounced the separatist ideology of MEChA nor, to my knowledge, has he been seriously questioned as to his loyalty to the United States. If Bustamante will not renounce MEChA, which advocates secession, the question must be asked: does he advocate secession as well? Does Bustamante think of himself as Mexican or American?

Without any doubt, the media would accuse anyone who asked such questions of racism and anti-immigrant prejudice. Nothing could be further from the truth. No one is questioning the loyalty of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is an actual immigrant. Where his loyalties lie is a well-established fact. He is a patriot. Were he a member (or former member) of a group which advocated Austria’s annexation of California, it would be another matter.

When, more than a decade ago, I first read of those who envision a ‘reconquista’ of the Southwest I laughed. That is no longer the case. The matter of the Aztlanites is deadly serious, and it is one which we will have to deal with at length in the years ahead. The two most prominent Hispanic politicians in the State of California, Bustamante and former Assembly Speaker (and near-Los Angeles Mayor) Antonio Villaraigosa were both, at one point, active supporters of the Aztlan concept. Villaraigosa was the President of MEChA’s UCLA Chapter. All across the State millions of young Latino children are having the anti-American ideology of racial separatism drummed into their heads at taxpayer expense. The millions of illegal immigrants who cross the border from Mexico into the United States every year are people who, for the most part, seem have no interest in shedding their Mexican identity and becoming Americanized. Even in the United States, these people continue to believe themselves Mexican, vote in Mexican elections, and raise their children as Mexicans. These illegals, those come without a love of America in their hearts, constitute nothing less than a vast civilian army, seeking to win back by the means of subversion what Mexico lost through war.

That is what makes Cruz Bustamante so dangerous. Already, the stupidity, laziness, and tendency towards pandering of so many California politicians has created a situation whereby illegal immigration is allowed to continue without obstruction and where no effort is made to, having resolved to let the illegals stay, integrate that great mass of people into the American public. A Governor Bustamante would almost certainly work to actively aid the continued infiltration and, indeed, to legitimize that infiltration. Already a bill has been passed allowing illegals in California to acquire California Driver’s Licenses. How long will it be before efforts are made to give them the right to vote (not that many don’t already vote illegally anyways)?

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are our traitors. It is high time to take a long look at just what kind of man it is how now aspires to be the Governor of California.


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To: adamyoshida
Traitor...easy call (0.000023 seconds computer time)

Now a question for the audience, which map is actually Aztlan?




How can we give them the land without a decent Map???

DD

21 posted on 09/04/2003 1:03:21 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: adamyoshida
Thanks Adam.

Given the current conditions - hundreds of thousands of anonymous illegals flooding in with a mindset that seems to increasingly embrace the idea that the southwest belongs to them exclusively (see Zogby's poll earlier this year), the potential for voter fraud, and an apparent racist poised to lead the largest state in the union, Bustamonte's candidacy constitutes a threat we ought to all be concerned about.

History repeats itself, and history shows these kinds of trends should NOT be disregarded. Ignoring it may soon no longer be an option.

22 posted on 09/04/2003 1:23:20 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Rabid Republican
First, Bustamante has never said he was going to do it, nor that he was interested in doing it. The only evidence we have is that he belonged to a radical student organization. He probably joined to figure out a way to study enough to graduate, which, if you didn't remember, was not a notable success.

To be a Nazi, you need to have the temprament to be a nazi. I don't see that as Cruz' role in life.

Unfortunately, that has to be balanced by my gut instinct about the man, which is that he's likely to be easily controlled by people who DO have an evil agenda.

The reality is that there are reasons enough to oppose him vigourously without even bringing up MEChA, which is a painfully divisive issue within the mainstream. I would not be comfortable with him as governor simply because he's a bit dull, easily manipulated and has a plan that consists entirely of special interest giveaways.

End of story, no?

D
23 posted on 09/04/2003 1:38:53 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: Rabid Republican
First, Bustamante has never said he was going to do it, nor that he was interested in doing it. The only evidence we have is that he belonged to a radical student organization. He probably joined to figure out a way to study enough to graduate, which, if you didn't remember, was not a notable success.

To be a Nazi, you need to have the temprament to be a nazi. I don't see that as Cruz' role in life.

Unfortunately, that has to be balanced by my gut instinct about the man, which is that he's likely to be easily controlled by people who DO have an evil agenda.

The reality is that there are reasons enough to oppose him vigourously without even bringing up MEChA, which is a painfully divisive issue within the mainstream. I would not be comfortable with him as governor simply because he's a bit dull, easily manipulated and has a plan that consists entirely of special interest giveaways.

End of story, no?

D
24 posted on 09/04/2003 1:38:58 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: backhoe
From the Cerritos College chapter....:

We, as Mechistas, see the process of Chicanismo as evolutionary. We recognize that no one is born politically Chicana or Chicano. Chicanismo results from a decision based on political consciousness for our Raza, to dedicate oneself to building a Chicana/Chicano Nation. Chicanismo is a concept that integrates self-awareness with cultural identity, a necessary step in developing political consciousness. Therefore, the term Chicano is grounded in a philosophy, not a nationality. Chicanismo does not exclude anyone, rather it includes those who acknowledge and work towards the betterment of La Raza. Chicanismo involves a personal decision to reject assimilation and work towards the preservation of our cultural heritage

25 posted on 09/04/2003 1:54:26 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: backhoe
From the Cerritos College chapter....:

We, as Mechistas, see the process of Chicanismo as evolutionary. We recognize that no one is born politically Chicana or Chicano. Chicanismo results from a decision based on political consciousness for our Raza, to dedicate oneself to building a Chicana/Chicano Nation. Chicanismo is a concept that integrates self-awareness with cultural identity, a necessary step in developing political consciousness. Therefore, the term Chicano is grounded in a philosophy, not a nationality. Chicanismo does not exclude anyone, rather it includes those who acknowledge and work towards the betterment of La Raza. Chicanismo involves a personal decision to reject assimilation and work towards the preservation of our cultural heritage

26 posted on 09/04/2003 1:54:28 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: daviddennis
Well, I have no compunction about looking at the MECHa issue - he has/is embracing it and it certainly comes off as having a racist idealology. As you and I discussed before, best that he praises them for the educational opportunities that they provide but he should also make it very clear that he does not support their out-dated philosophy (if it is indeed outdated).

And I happen to agree with your other points, in addition to his taking millions of dollars in what are probably illegal donations from the Indian Tribes.

This guy does not have a very strong moral compass.
27 posted on 09/04/2003 2:05:58 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Tempest
Check out this article. Pretty out there isn't it?
28 posted on 09/04/2003 2:13:52 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Rabid Republican
The sad thing about this article is that if Bustamante manages to take office we'll have noone to blame but ourselves.

We know who he is and we know what he wants. And as long as he has the money of the Indian gaming commision, the influence of the left wing media outlets and the votes of faithful far left Democrats we may very well still lose this yet.
29 posted on 09/04/2003 2:24:30 PM PDT by Tempest (If you lay off of Arnold, I'll lay off of Tom. Bustamante is the real danger.)
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To: Rabid Republican
Watch out for the millions from the tribes - Tom McClintock is trying to do the same thing.

I think most politicians without money or easy publicity would do similar things, so that doesn't disturb me all that much. But you might want to concentrate on him not playing by the rules. He's trying to play fast and loose with political donation law, as the LA Weekly article says.

I'd be willing to give him a pass on this one if I otherwise agreed with him.

D
30 posted on 09/04/2003 2:36:45 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
Tom actually renounced the idea of talking millions from the tribes last night during the debate. Called it "shady" or dubiously legal or something like that.

I think the whole tribe thing is a good focus point - he is very exposed.
31 posted on 09/04/2003 2:38:29 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Rabid Republican
In my opinion, the contribution limits set for this election are much too low. Generating awareness levels in this state is expensive, especially when you don't have much time to do it.

That being said, the LA Weekly article is pretty clear in showing Bustamante as playing fast and loose with the rules. He may feel he doesn't have a lot of choice at this point, since he needs to improve the public's knowledge of his existance.

As long as Tom's out of danger, I'd say we are right in playing that one up, and reminding people this is the same type of thing his big bro' Gray Davis does. It makes them look more like twins, and therefore hurts Cruz among the majority of voters who support the recall.

D
32 posted on 09/04/2003 2:48:53 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, however I think in view of all that has gone on in this state just over the last few years we would be wise not to underestimate anyone from the left.

I believe my husband and I are at the stage in life that you are also. We are somewhat financially comfortable after years of hard work and some good luck but I don't believe that allows us to stop thinking of the future of our children and even our parents should this state be run into the ground. I see people leaving in droves because they can no longer afford to live here, mostly retirees. Just in the last few months my sister and husband left for Arizona, and a couple who are dear friends left for Texas. Both states are by far less expensive.

We all know the hatred the left has for Prop 13. If that were somehow repealed my parents and my mother-in-law would not be able to afford to live in the homes they have had for years. Do I think Davis, Bustamante or the politicians on the Left care about that? No, I do not.

So please I understand what you are saying about being too vocal in our opposition but we cannot become complacent. That, I believe, would be very dangerous when we have others we should be considering. This whole issue is much bigger than just ourselves.

33 posted on 09/06/2003 7:39:38 AM PDT by spirit_free (How many Congressional Democrats belong to the Socialist Party of America ..... lots!)
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To: spirit_free; Rabid Republican
Oh dear me! I'm the last person who would argue for complacency!

Examine these two claims that I've seen here on the site:

(1) Bustamante was a member of MEChA, and they want to return California to the Mexicans. Evil!

(2) Bustamante is a captive of the Hispanic lobby and will do his darndest to resume bilingual education, a proven failure.

The first claim sounds so extreme and absurd that it might turn people away from our cause, which is to make sure Bustamante is not elected. There are also some fair-sounding rebuttals against it - Bustamante joined it only to get an education, he wasn't in it long, etc.

The second claim is true on the face of it, and is enough to prevent any right-thinking person from voting for the guy.

I would argue that it's a lot easier to accomplish our goal - turning people against Bustamante - by emphasizing alternative two instead of one. This is the correct course even if alternative one is true!

Does that make sense?

D
34 posted on 09/06/2003 7:48:43 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
Yes, I do see your point and you are correct. However, I believe that the current state law makers have awaken a 'sleeping giant' here and it would behove us to incorporate those people. These are people (democrats) who are just now beginning to see the leftist for what and who they are. I believe we need to accentuate that for them and we need to bring to light more than just bilingual education. There is some big and serious stuff going on here ... it's just that simple. We would be crazy not to take advantage of what is currently going on. We can do that in a delicate and intelligent way I think.
35 posted on 09/06/2003 8:04:34 AM PDT by spirit_free (How many Congressional Democrats belong to the Socialist Party of America ..... lots!)
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