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To: callmemrpurpose
Ok whatever. I get your point that its a ridiculous story and impossible to believe; as if other religions dont believe in some ridiculous things? If thats all it is then why aren't you against all religions for their belief in god? Is that your only argument?

The way I feel is that what I've done so far in scientology has helped me out quite a bit more than anything else ever has. So, no I don't take it on blind faith, I see it for what it is, not what people tell me it is.

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Let's not forget that his (L.Ron Hubbard's) books were written and marketed in the 50's, 60's & 70's as SCIENCE FICTION. I remember, as a child in the 70's, seeing the paperbacks in the sci-fi bestseller displays (and later self-help) at the mall. My mother recognized it as drivel and cautioned me about it then.

on this previous thread -

Tom Cruise: How Scientology Helped Me .

One of the features that distinguishes a cult from a religious group is one's ability to leave the group or disagree with a group member or teaching and also to associate with family and friends who aren't members of the group. Speaking as someone who has witnessed a person 'disappear' when trying to leave a cult (my friend's good friend), I can say it's scary stuff.

I'm glad that you don't take everything at face value. It's always good to want to self-improve, but a quick trip to a bookstore or search on google can turn up dozens of ways in addition to scientology. You mention that you don't believe everything they say and that you are just beginning, so issues of leaving or spending time with non-COS friends and family may not be an issue, but beware should you ever be told to disassociate with loved ones or have those loved ones demonized by 'teachers' or pay sums of money so large that it financially straps you. Groups with your best intentions at heart will NOT ask this of you. (Rehab groups treat your existing addictions or illness not necessarily your soul and have a finishing point where you hopefully 'graduate' and go back to your regular, non-addicted life.)

151 posted on 09/22/2003 4:08:24 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie
"One of the features that distinguishes a cult from a religious group is one's ability to leave the group or disagree with a group member or teaching and also to associate with family and friends who aren't members of the group."

My Mother was a staff member for a number of years whle I was a child and left without a problem.

And, probably half of my friends aren't scientologists.

"but beware should you ever be told to disassociate with loved ones or have those loved ones demonized by 'teachers' or pay sums of money so large that it financially straps you."

Just as a little side information that might interest you -My father, over the passed 5 years has 5xed his income by applying scientology, to his life. He recently joined staff and works part time with the church, part time at home, and studies at night, yet he's still managed to make 6 digits this year.

He is a big contributer to the church now and you can imagine they ask him for money quite often, but he has the balls to say "no" when he can't afford it or doesn't want to.

Only an idiot would give someone money they don't have, that what I think.



Anyway, what are some of the other popular forums on this site?
155 posted on 09/23/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT by callmemrpurpose
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To: fortunecookie
"It's always good to want to self-improve, but a quick trip to a bookstore or search on google can turn up dozens of ways in addition to scientology."

This is true and I believe there are a number of ways for a person to better himself not just through scientology.

Keeping healthy, eating right, exercising, recreation. These things do wonders.


156 posted on 09/23/2003 12:57:55 PM PDT by callmemrpurpose
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