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Candidates' stances on gun issues emerge (Cal Recall)
Sacramento Bee | 3 September 2003 | Herbert A. Sample

Posted on 09/03/2003 11:15:54 AM PDT by 45Auto

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Regulating the ownership of firearms is beyond the authority of government; all gun control laws are unconstitutional. Nearly all politicians are merely tyrants-in-waiting.
1 posted on 09/03/2003 11:15:54 AM PDT by 45Auto
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As Oakland logs its 87th murder this year, its clear that all the gun control nonsense that Davis has signed has done NOTHING to reduce the criminal use of guns. Still, the idiots persist, even in the face of staggering evidence that their stupid laws do nothing to lower the incidence of crime; indeed, a good case could be made that as gun laws have been tightened, crime has gone steadily upward. That leaves us with only one conclusion: most politicians have another agenda in mind when they stubbornly pursue more and more gun laws: TYRANNY.
2 posted on 09/03/2003 11:20:25 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Might as well as said: "We need to make sure that politicians with access to that power have been properly vetted, have proper training and can be held accountable for their actions." That sure as hell leaves her out in the cold.
3 posted on 09/03/2003 11:22:11 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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From the article:

He went further on Aug. 27, telling a Los Angeles radio audience that he supports the federal Brady Bill's background checks on gun buyers, trigger locks, the assault rifle ban and restrictions on gun show purchases.

California no longer has a so-called "gun show loophole". Restrictions on all private sales were put in place by a law enacted either last year or possibly the year before.

4 posted on 09/03/2003 11:27:58 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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"Gun control" is and has always been about PEOPLE CONTROL. Once the peopel are disarmed, it is much easier to round them up and send them off to be "re-educated". Just like they did in Germany, Poland, France, China, Russia, Ukraine, ad naseum.
5 posted on 09/03/2003 11:29:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: 45Auto
Welcome to Massachusetts.
6 posted on 09/03/2003 11:37:47 AM PDT by pabianice
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Politicians have been shot in Sweden and Holland, where guns are outlawed.

And, in Vermont ANYONE can have a gun and I don't recall the last time a mass shooting took place there, if ever.

They don't want a gun, fine. But don't tell me I CAN'T have mine.

Keep up the good fight .45!

7 posted on 09/03/2003 11:42:32 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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"In reality, I'm for gun control," he said. "I'm a peace-loving guy. I hate violence amongst the young kids." He went further on Aug. 27, telling a Los Angeles radio audience that he supports the federal Brady Bill's background checks on gun buyers, trigger locks, the assault rifle ban and restrictions on gun show purchases.

Arnold's anti-gun agenda doesn't leave much out.

8 posted on 09/03/2003 11:44:25 AM PDT by Roscoe
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California no longer has a so-called "gun show loophole".

His handlers aren't going to let facts get in the way of their talking points.

9 posted on 09/03/2003 11:45:51 AM PDT by Roscoe
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And in last year's "Collateral Damage," Schwarzenegger's character does not even touch a gun, though he kills several people with his hands and an ax.

Something about this struck me as amusing.

It's as if the writer of the article is suggesting that it is better that people are killed without a gun.

10 posted on 09/03/2003 11:48:59 AM PDT by B Knotts
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11 posted on 09/03/2003 11:49:49 AM PDT by kAcknor
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Its very clear who the enemies of freedom are; just about anyone associated with the RAT party; about half to two thirds of the RINO/Repubo leadership; the entire commie left parties, i.e. the Greens; the entire judicary with a few minor exceptions; the American Bar Association; the AMA; the list goes on and on. I think in the long run the RKBA is doomed.

Yes, 38 states have adopted "shall issue" CCW. Still, the number of new state gun laws put in place every year shows that the overall trend is toward the total ban on gun transfers, the outlawing of private gun ownership and possibly a confiscation plan. I have no doubt the the Brady Boob and company already have such a plan outlined just waiting to find some dupe of a politician with the stupidity to grab it. The penultimate law will ban all but so-called smart guns; that will nearly be the final nail in the coffin of the once great Free Republic.

12 posted on 09/03/2003 11:50:48 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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13 posted on 09/03/2003 11:54:06 AM PDT by ambrose (If You're Not Outraged, You're Not Paying Attention...)
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SIGNED BY DAVIS IN 2001

? SB 52 and AB 35: Requires Californians who attempt to buy a handgun to complete a two-part exam at the place of purchase to prove they can safely handle and operate the firearm.

? SB 950: Requires the state Department of Justice to check handgun purchase records back to 1991 on every person who falls into a prohibited class (such as felons) to determine whether they had previously purchased handguns. The agency and local law enforcement can take action to determine the status of the weapon and take it off the street.


SIGNED BY DAVIS IN 2002

? SB 682 and AB 496: Overturned a 1983 law that immunized manufacturers against certain liability claims when their weapons cause harm.


BILLS PENDING IN THE LEGISLATURE

? SB 489 (Load Indicator and Magazine Safety Disconnect, by Sen. Jack Scott): Would require most semiautomatic pistols that are newly designed after Jan. 1, 2006, to have a clearly understood load indicator or a magazine safety disconnect. By Jan. 1, 2007, most newly designed pistols would have to have both devices. Handguns that are already approved for sale in California (on the roster before Jan. 1, 2005) would be exempt until/unless they were redesigned.

? AB 50 (Ban .50-Caliber Sniper Rifles, by Assemblyman Paul Koretz): Current law restricts certain "assault weapons" that have specific military features and specific models, such as the AK-47 series. But there is no general restriction on the sale of armor-piercing, .50-caliber military sniper rifles. AB 50 would ban these rifles. People who own them would be required to register them and could not transfer them without a special license from the state Department of Justice.

? SB 35 (Ballistic Fingerprinting Bullet Collection by Sen. Jack Scott): The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives maintains a ballistic fingerprint database of crime guns and bullets or cartridges recovered at crime scenes. The database is not allowed to include non-crime gun data (such as ballistic fingerprints of guns before they are sold). SB 35 would require, before a gun is sold, that bullet and cartridge samples be sent to the California Department of Justice. The samples would be available for entry into a future database. SB 35 would set deadlines for the gun industry to develop an automatic ballistic fingerprint collection processes on new firearms.

Note: Peter Ueberroth's campaign was unable to answer the questionnaire by deadline.

Source: Bee research

Sacramento Bee/Olivia Nguyen
14 posted on 09/03/2003 11:54:36 AM PDT by ambrose (If You're Not Outraged, You're Not Paying Attention...)
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Does killing people with your hands or an ax make them less dead?
15 posted on 09/03/2003 11:56:09 AM PDT by CFW
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I get the impression that some people think that a murder victim would be almost happy to be killed with hands or an ax, as opposed to a gun.
16 posted on 09/03/2003 12:01:00 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: 45Auto
2 States have no restrictions.
33 States have "Shall Issue".
9 States have "May Issue".
6 States have Rights Denied.
17 posted on 09/03/2003 12:30:00 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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19 posted on 09/03/2003 12:53:19 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Californians elected two Senators who are strongly anti-gun.

Senator Feinstein said on national TV that if she had 51 votes in the Senate, " It would be - Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them in."

No one has publicly told her that such an action would violate the U.S. Constitution.

20 posted on 09/03/2003 1:12:46 PM PDT by gatex
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