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PETA: Lies, abuse and death
The American Partisan ^ | 2 September, 2003 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 09/03/2003 8:50:16 AM PDT by The Right Stuff

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To: Peter Porcupine
We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding....One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding. -- Wayne Pacelle, Former National Director of Fund for Animals.

This guy is a little off the planet dontcha think? None of this would surprise me but as the article is written, there is no real meat here...I would love to see more of the "definite documentation" another poster mentioned.
21 posted on 09/03/2003 10:21:37 AM PDT by grumple
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To: All
PETA, like so many mass movements of recent origin, is a sado-masochist power cult. Complete inversion of one's stated standards, as we see in this article, is a characteristic of these cults. The ability to engage in brazen hypocrisy, and get away with it, is an affirmation of power as the neurotically aggressive see it.

We see this same tendency in PETA's allies, the so-called peace movement, in which kidnapping, torture, and the cruelest forms of murder (bus-bombing for example) are rationalized as "self-defense" and "resistance to oppression" while the very right to survive is questioned when it is invoked on behalf of those whom the peace movement opposes (Jews and Americans). I believe that this power-affirming hypocrisy is an actual component of these groups' agenda, and not simply a means to an end.

22 posted on 09/03/2003 10:23:19 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: The Right Stuff
PETA real goal is the distruction of a segment of the AG industry. Having said that there is nothing in this article that can be checked out. It may be true but it reads like a tabloid gossip story.
23 posted on 09/03/2003 11:00:39 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: grumple
excerpted from http://www.massfeddogs.org/news/2002/petaalf.htm:

For info on breed-specific legislation and PETA, you can read Ingrid Newkirk's own press statement on how pit bulls ought to all be euthanized at http://www.pitbullregistry.com/PETAletter.htm, including her statement, "People who genuninely care about dogs won't be affected by a ban on pits. They can go to the shelter and save one of the countless other breeds and lovable mutts sitting on death row through nofault of their own. We can only stop killing pits if we stop creating new ones. Legislators, please take note."

This is from 2000, the same year she took on Best Friends Animal Shelter here in Utah. She derided Best Friends, the nation's largest no-kill shelter, for their "No More Homeless Pets in Utah" project, which she called naive; her press statements came after the folks from Best Friends investigated the Associated Press's report of how many animals PETA had killed after having picked them up. (Living in Utah, I can attest to the good work that Best Friends does, taking in animals no one else will take and either finding them homes or maintaining them in a comfortable setting for the rest of their lives. And their "No More Homeless Pets in Utah" campaign has made huge strides toward ending euthanasia in shelters, as more people learn they can adopt the animal of their dreams that way.)

The Associated Press's Matthew Barakat reported, in 2000, that "Last year, the Norfolk-based animal-rights group took in 2,103 companion animals.

It was able to find homes for 386, and put down 1,325. (Transfers and reclamations by owners accounted for most of the rest of the animals PETA took in.)" These numbers were as reported to the state of Virginia by PETA. (There's a copy of the AP story at http://www.fegan.net/peta_kills.htm). In that same year, the Animal Adoption and Rescue Foundation (AARF) in Richmond, VA, said, "a no-kill philosophy is not as unattainable as detractors claim. AARF found homes for 1,062 cats and dogs last year. It euthanized none", according to the Associated Press. These are just a few websites and references to recent PETA actions and statements. I came up with these in about fifteen minutes of web-searching; there are many many more out there. My point is not to say that people who support PETA are evil or even hold bad intentions. But I think that PETA has been very effective at positioning itself as a mainstream, animal-supporting, organization, while conducting some very unpleasant business out of the spotlight of the mainstream media or the public eye. And I worry that individuals who think "it can't happen here" and "they would never really be able to do that" and such are contributing to PETA's ability to do exactly what they're working toward. As an animal lover, that's something I find very very frightening. I support your right to believe as you see fit, but please, be sure you really have all the information you can gather first, before you make up your mind.

24 posted on 09/03/2003 11:15:42 AM PDT by Peter Porcupine
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To: grumple
And...

PETA euthanized more than 1,000 animals last year

By MATTHEW BARAKAT © 2000, Associated Press

RICHMOND -- It may seem surprising that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals -- a group that often comes to the defense of rats -- euthanized more than 1,300 cats and dogs last year.

But PETA President Ingrid Newkirk says it was the only humane thing to do.

Last year, the Norfolk-based animal-rights group took in 2,103 companion animals. It was able to find homes for 386, and put down 1,325. (Transfers and reclamations by owners accounted for most of the rest of the animals PETA took in.)

``It is a totally rotten business, but sometimes the only kind option for some animals is to put them to sleep forever,'' Newkirk said. ``I don't think a dog living in a cage walking in circles for the rest of its life in a dog prison is a swell thing.''

While several dozen shelters in Virginia have adopted a no-kill philosophy, PETA has not.

``It sounds lovely if you're naive,'' Newkirk said. ``We could become a no-kill shelter immediately. It means we wouldn't do as much work.''

Newkirk said PETA goes into bad neighborhoods and rescues animals that are unadoptable.

``Nobody wants most of the animals that we touch,'' she said.

But Terry Wagoner, president of the Animal Adoption and Rescue Foundation (AARF) in Richmond, said a no-kill philosophy is not as unattainable as detractors claim. AARF found homes for 1,062 cats and dogs last year. It euthanized none.

She acknowledged that some animals -- feral dogs, for example -- can be dangerous and are essentially unadoptable. But many other animals are written off prematurely, she said.

AARF has been able to adopt more animals than any other no-kill shelter in the state through an aggressive foster-care program, Wagoner said.

``It takes three things: money, adoptions and foster care,'' Wagoner said. ``It's not going to work without those three.''

Advocates on either side of the no-kill debate agree on the need for aggressive programs to get animals spayed and neutered.

AARF will not allow an animal that hasn't been fixed to be adopted, Wagoner said, and AARF will spay or neuter an animal as young as 12 weeks old.

Newkirk said there's a simple solution to the nation's pet overpopulation.

``We need to make it expensive to license an unsterilized dog or cat. ... We need to make it expensive to breed dogs and cats,'' she said. ``The program would pay for itself.''

25 posted on 09/03/2003 11:21:43 AM PDT by Peter Porcupine
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To: grumple
Gunny: I am the author's editor and he has mailed me a copy of his source notes. I believe him and have deleted the names of the people involved to protect them from possible reprisals from the PETA wackos, as they live within the local area and are within reach of these domestic terrorists.

Dress it up any way you want, but PETA, like the ALF and ELF and even Al-Qaeda - by virtue of their actions, are enemies of the state and must be destroyed - period.

As far as I'm concerned with these PETA wackos: BRING IT ON!

Timothy Rollins
Editor and Publisher
The American Partisan
http://www.american-partisan.com
26 posted on 09/04/2003 8:19:32 PM PDT by MrBallroom
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To: MrBallroom; Peter Porcupine
Kudos to the folks and others who have provided the additional supporting doc on this subject. You have provided me some of the meat I was looking for. Semper Fi!
27 posted on 09/05/2003 3:54:14 AM PDT by grumple
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To: grumple
You have provided me some of the meat I was looking for.

And who here doesn't like meat? ;-)

28 posted on 09/05/2003 12:31:44 PM PDT by Peter Porcupine
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To: The Right Stuff; Eaker; habs4ever; Ditter; shaggy eel; dorben; Son of Rooster; Tennessee_Bob; ...
PING!

Go figure! So much for PETA being so concerned about animals...

29 posted on 09/06/2003 2:48:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: The Right Stuff
It must never be done to animals that don't belong to you!

I have to correct this. It is perfectly legal to shoot dogs running deer in many states. Picking up strays in locales where there is a leash law also has many procedures that you must go through to contact the owner or give the owner time to contact the pound before euthanasia is carried out. And this is true even of feral animals, because it could just be a mean old cat or dog, not a feral one. Even if the animal's time runs out, if the workers feel it's an animal that stands a good chance of adoption they will generally keep it around as long as possible. At least that's how our very small city pound worked. It was sad how many animals that were obviously someone's pet came in and no one called after them. :-( Didn't want to pay the impound fee or whatever, so they just never look, and the animal is destroyed, and the people very likely go out and get another free/cheap animal from some backyard breeder.

30 posted on 09/06/2003 2:53:32 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Phantom Lord
She had no problem going on O'Reilly and proclaiming her hope that Mad Cow, and especially Hoof and Mouth disease would make its way to America to halt our consumption of beef.

Seems very obvious these whackjobs are pro DEATH. Preferably human, but animal too.

31 posted on 09/06/2003 2:54:57 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Soliv123; The Right Stuff
Please don't try to say that it is all just a left wing conspiracy. Your PETA story is front page news if it is real.

Oh yes right, and what unbiased news do you read? Since when have stories that put the favorites of the left in a bad light made the front page?

If you name the locale it may very well be enough for people to figure out which employees are turncoats and take it out on the animals.

I don't know unequivocally whether it is true, but it RINGS true, and that's the point.

32 posted on 09/06/2003 2:57:17 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: The Right Stuff
How about that Juannita Broaddrick hey?
33 posted on 09/06/2003 2:58:00 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: MrBallroom; The Right Stuff; Terriergal
Mr. Rollins , Thank you for the link . After a 30 second preview of the contributing along with the staff it looks like you have a solid team built .

This specific article TRS is not out of the realm of potential for these folks and any 1 of the doubter's can search for the knowledge if they desire it .

34 posted on 09/06/2003 7:06:52 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Terriergal
You both are solid as far as I am concerned & thanks for the ping Hon . What folks dont understand is that it's not about the pets or stray curs .

I know you know this . I'm thinking lurkers might take the initiative and get activiated . Thanks again !

35 posted on 09/06/2003 7:17:22 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: scooter2
why shoot them? just lock them in a cage and leave them in the woods. i think the message would be made clear to them just before delirium and starvation claimed them.
36 posted on 09/11/2003 9:23:36 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: Terriergal
has anyone emailed this research to fox news?
37 posted on 09/11/2003 9:24:52 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: grumple
The stuff about rounding upp all those cats seems kinda fishy...I generally notice cats that bolt into hiding at the approach of stranges...

I was just at a carpeting place the other day where they had a nice little cat roaming around the store - I petted it and it ended up following me around the entire time. Hmm...

Yeah, they don't round up cats with a horse and lasso, they use live traps. It could still be referred to as 'rounding up' a bunch of cats.

PETA has been very much linked with some of the official domestic terrorist groups - so why not this idiocy? We know what terrorist groups do to innocent bystanders and how much they REALLY care about those that make up what they say their cause is, so why would PETA be any different?

And yes, I would be the first to believe any story of evil behavior coming from PETA nuts. Because it RINGS TRUE TO FORM.

38 posted on 09/11/2003 2:42:27 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: MrBallroom
Keep us apprised of the situation, thanks! I consider PETA one of America's enemies.
39 posted on 09/11/2003 2:43:49 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: grumple
If you wanna see where PETA and other activist groups' money goes, check out

www.activistcash.com

PETA is in the first pulldown list but there are tons of other groups and individuals that activistcash keeps track of. I think it was last year sometime that the (president?) of activistcash talked to Medved on Rush's show once when Rush was out, about IRS documents linking PETA to groups like ELF and ALF.

40 posted on 09/11/2003 2:47:30 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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