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To: Alter Kaker
You cited the Declaration of Independence to prove 'something' about the Constitution or you mean some invented small 'c' constitution?

Case 1 that public schools are working just fine.

State enforced 'Segregation' and slavery are moral evils; using violence, violation of property rights, and war on civilians to achieve an alleged moral good is a liberal concept from the French Revolution, not a conservative concept.

Case 2 that public schools are working just fine.

Throwing starving Irish and Chinese into mills and working them to death is, IMO, on the same moral plane as 'slavery' but at least there are thousands of stories of decent, Christian slave owners and slaves alike who felt genuine human kindness and loyalty to each other.

There was a higher rate of two-parent black families during slavery than there is today; that can only be considered an achievement through liberal glasses.

Case 3.

King used violence to achieve his alleged positive end which has resulted in an even more segregated community or did you not see that the Supreme Court made racial prefernce the law of the land a month ago? He achieved nothing that you give him credit for, apparently.

Case 4.
97 posted on 09/03/2003 9:55:59 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Don't leave the children on their own, no, no. Bring the Boys Back Home)
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To: JohnGalt
constitution, n. the physical makeup of the individual comprising inherited qualities modified by environment. I contend that slavery did not represent American qualities of liberty.

Case 1 that public schools are working just fine.

??? You blame problems of public schools on desegregation?

using violence, violation of property rights, and war on civilians to achieve an alleged moral good is a liberal concept from the French Revolution, not a conservative concept.

Doing nothing while rights are trampled, your women are raped, and your children are taken away is not a conservative concept, for it does not conserve your G-d given rights or much anything.

There was a higher rate of two-parent black families during slavery than there is today; that can only be considered an achievement through liberal glasses.

Post hoc ergo proctor hoc. You blame Lincoln for that? You are saying that end of slavery is somehow responsible for immorality? You ignore that slaves were forced to marry and copulate? You forget that women slaves often advertised in America as "good breeding stock?" Sorry, no less moral time in American history than when slavery exists.

King used violence to achieve his alleged positive end which has resulted in an even more segregated community

The last time I was in America I see black in schools, hospitals, movie theaters, restaurants. First time in America, in 1959, I see opposite. More segregated? Nonsense. And how did King use violence? You seem you have agenda my friend.

154 posted on 09/03/2003 11:15:21 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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