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What Kondratieff theory tells us is that the boom-bust cycle that inflationary monetary policy brings about creates prodigious amounts of debt that eventually overwhelm society. A period of liquidation then must follow in order for the economy to regain its health. When Kondratieff theory is integrated with Ludwig von Mises' Austrian analysis of inflationary monetary policy, one is presented with a startlingly clear picture of WHY and HOW our economic troubles over the past 65 years have come about. One then sees the connecting link of factors that cause the volatile boom-bust nature of modern economic life.

I believe that the Austrians have it right and that the rule of the monetarists is quickly coming to an end.

Richard W.

1 posted on 09/02/2003 5:20:26 PM PDT by arete
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FYI

Comments and opinions welcome.

Richard W.

2 posted on 09/02/2003 5:21:45 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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""George Bush Jr. is as Big Government as you can get! Socialism (or actually fascism) has come to America via a "conservative" administration! "" ...I stopped reading right about here. W hit peice in disguise.
4 posted on 09/02/2003 5:27:24 PM PDT by ChadsDad (Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?)
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Bloody optimist.
5 posted on 09/02/2003 5:28:05 PM PDT by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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I think Larry Burkett might concur- god rest his soul. But if it all goes to pot, we will just borrow more :)
6 posted on 09/02/2003 5:28:55 PM PDT by chance33_98 (WWJD - What would Jefferson Do?)
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If financial cataclysm, the economic apocalypse, 'The End Of The World As We Know It®' and the shit hitting the fan are all coming our way...

... why would I want to invest in gold again?

9 posted on 09/02/2003 5:48:19 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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How original! Another Kondy wave junkie...ohhhhhhhhh

I hope you have better luck on the weekly lottery tickets than you do with all the snakeoil financial writers you read and have shrink your head.

By the way, have you covered your shorts yet? Hope yer luving this bull market!
13 posted on 09/02/2003 5:52:33 PM PDT by habs4ever
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Index of Hultberg's editorials
16 posted on 09/02/2003 6:02:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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I think this means our collective American credit card is maxed out. (What do you mean I'm overdrawn? I still have checks!)
17 posted on 09/02/2003 6:03:32 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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- Gross Domestic Product is over-stated by approximately 10%, or $1500 billion per year, if you ignore absurd adjustments and defer to the cash economy. Income is augmented by similar fictitious ploys such as $800B in self-paid rent for homeowners and $300B in credits for bank checking accounts (nowadays paid by fees), among others.

- Productivity is double-counted and triple-counted by means of adjustments for faster computer processors and faster disk storage access. A recent conjob was perpetrated to reclassify software expenditures as capital equipment investments, thereby allowing a multiplier to be unleashed as in the accounting of equipment sales.

- Business investment over the 12 months ending 2003Q1 for computer systems grew by an hedonically elevated $56 billion, whereas in current unadjusted terms, it rose only $4.4B. Recently announced forward guidance by both Sun Microsystems and Siebel Systems serves to confirm the notion that information technology recovery is a myth.

- Even the jobless report is conducted with fraudulent intent, as nutty estimates are introduced for small business job creation, thus wiping out over 300,000 layoffs in Q1 of this year in revision.

- Savings are not a small and rising percentage of income, but rather are actually about minus $400 billion annually after one pushes off the ledger several fraudulent adjustments cited above.

18 posted on 09/02/2003 6:05:12 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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As usual, I defer to the "behaviorism" school of economics, (especially in light of the various bubbles mentioned above)

To have and to hold

Aug 28th 2003
From The Economist print edition

Can people learn to be as rational as economic theory supposes?

FOR several years now, a battle has been raging among economists. On one side are the traditional, “neoclassical” theorists, who believe that people should be thought of as rational economic agents. On the other are the upstart “behaviouralists”, who do not accept that people always get their complicated sums right (maximising utility subject to a budget constraint, and all that), or even act as if they do.

A top behaviouralist, Daniel Kahneman, won last year's Nobel prize in economics for pointing out the differences between Homo sapiens and H. economicus. Real people tend to judge their well-being relative to others, not in absolute terms; their actions depend on the way choices are presented; they fear loss more than they crave gain. Such insights form the core of what is known as “prospect theory”. Some economists think that prospect theory can overthrow two centuries of neoclassical thought. Others say that it only gives credence to the idea that people repeatedly make daft mistakes. Is there a way of settling the dispute?

...../SNIP/......

This implies that prospect theory can capture the behaviour of inexperienced people, of which the world has many in all sorts of markets. But experienced buyers or sellers in well-established markets get over their psychological “flaws”. They can even transfer their trading skills from one market to another. The neoclassicals, it seems, have scored a point.

Mr List notes that sellers seem to learn how to trade faster than buyers do. What might this imply for, say, stockmarkets? The green investors who discovered shares only when markets boomed in the 1990s had been slower than others to part with their cash and join in. But once in, were they afflicted by the endowment effect? Owning Amazon shares bought for $400 each made it hard to sell until much higher prices came along (they didn't). Sophisticated traders, especially the sell sides of investment banks, had no such baggage, and sold. The bear market, however, should have proved as good a learning experience as novice investors are likely to get.

24 posted on 09/02/2003 6:24:09 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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Remarkable. This article reminds me of the 18th chapter of the Revelation. The author has certainly done his homework.

He is correct about Bush. My wife and I voted for him. But we decided weeks ago that we could not vote for him again. He is no conservative, by any stretch of the imagination.

25 posted on 09/02/2003 6:34:11 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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Bookmarked.
33 posted on 09/02/2003 7:12:08 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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But this is the inevitable result when both parties subscribe to the SAME flawed fundamental premises. Those flawed premises are: 1) Government needs to be centralized and highly interventionist to be effective. And 2) it is permissible for political legislation to violate individual rights in order to convey special privileges to groups. It is upon these two dictatorial premises that both Democrats and Republicans structure the entirety of their policies. Arbitrary law has trumped objective law as a policy tool for each of them. Both have abandoned belief in a higher natural law. Both endorse the wholesale violation of rights. Consequently they both are driving us toward economic fascism and dictatorship.

This obsevation is the heart of the matter. Those who ignore or scoff at it due to party loyalty due so at their own peril. In this atmosphere, parties are able to successfully isolate politically inconvenient groups of society that are either too small or to sparcely grouped to consitute a large enough voting block to be a threat come election time.

37 posted on 09/02/2003 7:26:12 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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Bump for later
45 posted on 09/02/2003 8:35:52 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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BTTT
47 posted on 09/02/2003 8:43:58 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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Bump for when I'm awake.
49 posted on 09/02/2003 8:54:23 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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".. monetary policy brings about creates prodigious amounts of debt that eventually overwhelm society."

I'm no economist but, when I recently refinanced my home I eliminated 100K of debt (we were also able to pay off our credit cards). As a result I have alot better liquidity than I did at this time last year.

Please explain how this is a bad thing. Also if millions of Americans have done what we did wouldn't the overall debt load in the US economy have been substantially reduced thereby blowing this argument into pieces?

58 posted on 09/03/2003 1:20:44 PM PDT by Pietro
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I smell another Lugnut Rockwell article.

Buy handbaskets! Now!

60 posted on 09/03/2003 1:37:37 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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Regarding the flow of jobs to developing countries, wouldn't that have happened anyway, Arete, regardless of attempted credit manipulation by the Fed, considering that lowering the costs of production means more sales? It seems like a natural move for a corporation. I think it is Adam Smith who said "When goods do not cross borders, armies will." Apologies if I screwed up the quote.

I'm having trouble believing that the 2 party system is a secret conspiracy. Even if I admit that they are becoming increasingly similar and statist. Especially considering the remarks by Mr. Gillespie.

"Arbitrary law has trumped objective law as a policy tool for each of them." Hultberg is right on with this remark, IMO, so maybe it is moot whether it's a conspiracy or not, the result's the same.

"This doctrine states that America needs to abandon the conventional foreign policy model of national defense and actively pursue a reshaping of the world"

It's very possible that we have no choice other than pursuing such if we are to restrain the terror threat against us. Or we must end our dependence on Middle Eastern Oil.

"Greenspan's wild, hallucinatory expansion of the money supply that culminated in the blow off top of the stock"

Pardon my ignorance, does the above refer to his lowering of interest rates and encouraging of corporate debt?

Yeah, I agree with the thrust of this article, I am sure that one cannot successfully manipulate the market to achieve political ends, as statists imagine. No matter what, the market will rule, fooling with it too much is, I am sure, asking for trouble (or catastrophe, as the author anticipates).

I fully agree with him that we are headed for serious trouble or catastrophe, mostly for the reasons he gives, because we have given up our founders' ideals in favor of statism and arbitrary rule. Whether or not the catastrophe is now upon us is beyond my meager ability to really guess. But I don't doubt that when it occurs, the Left, and probably the Right will call for yet more statism to correct it.

This whole thing is really over my head. However, I'm going to get out my Ben Graham stuff and look at my portfolio, what's left of it, in terms of fundamental "value," I guess. Probably be a good idea to look at the amount of debt compainies are carrying.

Thanks

72 posted on 09/03/2003 8:27:31 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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Bump for bedtime reading.
75 posted on 09/04/2003 4:28:36 AM PDT by Bon mots
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