McClintock Key to Democratic Victory in California

Intellectual Conservative.com ^ | 9/2/3 | Bob Chandra

[fieldmarshaldj]

Hi. Here ya go:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/973836/posts?page=207#207
Hope that helps. ;-)

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Tom McClintock thinks that he's a Detroit Tiger. He's already lost two state-wide races, but hey... Three's a charm!!!

Tom's motto...IF YOU ARE GONNA LOSE... LOSE BIG!

[Reagan Man]

What a pathetic and convoluted rebuttal.

You're ripe for the pickens. LOL

[A CA Guy]

Stand by your McNader and his help to assist Busta then!

[FairOpinion]

"The bottom line is -- TMC or AS -- we want to evict the Democrats from the Governor's mansion. That was the whole point of the recall. "

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Exactly.

As State Assemblyman Haynes said it accurately:


"LOS ANGELES, Aug. 31 — State Assemblyman Ray Haynes is one of the most conservative members of the California legislature, but when he looks at the stakes involved in next month’s recall election here, the choice is clear. He’s for a Republican who can win.

“I’ll be real blunt,” Haynes said in an interview. “I was involved in the recall with Tom McClintock from the beginning, but I didn’t get involved in this to hand the governorship over to [Democratic Lt. Gov.] Cruz Bustamante. That’s something I need to be cognizant of and other conservatives need to be cognizant of.”

FOR GOP, A CRITICAL CHANCE

Adversity breeds such pragmatism. Republicans see the recall election as a critical opportunity to begin the rebuilding process after a series of devastating elections that shut them out of power in the state. Democrats control the governor’s office, the state Assembly and Senate and every statewide constitutional office.

State Senate Republican leader Jim Brulte reiterated this weekend his willingness to help talk second-tier GOP candidates out of the race. “California will be no better off if Gray Davis is recalled and Republican candidates finish two, three and four,” Brulte said.


Haynes might be part of that effort. “I’m at the point,” he said, “of saying to McClintock, ‘Show you can bring the resources to the table to win, or get out of the way.’ ”


From article: Calif. GOP divided over recall race (Why McClintock supporter supports Arnold)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/974057/posts

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You get paid to give political advice? No wonder the CaliforniaGOP is in the toilet. Ever advise a winning candidacy?

[Cultural Jihad]

You do understand the basic rules of the election, no? There will be 2 questions: "Do you support the recall?" Right now the polls are saying 50% Yes to 45% No. The next question is: "Pick your replacement." The winner is the one who gets the most votes. It is likely it will not be a majority decision, but a plurality.

Please help me understand your point in saying that two major GOP candidates running for one office does not matter.

[ArneFufkin]

You'll love Freeper "tame"'s performance on the Michael Medved show today. The replay of his call will be webcast on KRLA 870 at 6:40 pm PST. Just hit the "Today's show" button under Medved's picture. It'll be on again at 9:40, 12:40 etc. as the three hour show loops until showtime tomorrow.

You'll love hearing one of the McClintock unappeasables in voice. LMAO!

[A Broken Glass Republican]

I don't wonder about the ones on this thread. They don't seem bright enough to be able to grasp the concept you and I have worked under...

Sometimes it's easier to make your oponent lose than help your candidate win.

I also went onto Professional Wrestling boards (Please excuse me...It's a wicked vice, I know) to tell them of Lieberman's participation in the RTC (Or whatever it was). They were against violence in wrestling. I said they needed to support Bush/Cheney if they wanted to keep their Rasslin' voilent!

I'd like to think that maybe I swung just one vote in Florida. One of the 532!!

[FairOpinion]

While you are quoting FR poll, you didn't quote the most relevant one, that as many people support Arnold, as McClintock. Which proves either that half of the conservatives are sensible, or that half of the people on FR are Dem shills.

Who do you support for Governor of California now that Bill Simon has dropped out?

McClintock - 47%

Schwarzenegger - 46%

Other - 2%

Undecided - 3%

[Tempest]

"AS has sworn to veto this as well as TM - it seems only sensible to vote for the one most likely to win."

As much as I would hope this is truth, the TM supporters have become more and more cult like within recent days. I never thought that I'd see so many conservatives act so unreasonable about such a common sense decision.

[Cultural Jihad]

Holy Litterbox, Batman! Thanks for the heads up. ;-)

[A Broken Glass Republican]

LOL!

I love the simple insults...

"Dorks".

LOL!!

[truth_seeker]

"This is a carbon copy of the plan that gave us Bill Simon, the Candidate From Hell. It is exquisite. Indeed, the hand of Bubba may be lurking here."

For political skills, the dems sure have it over the CA GOP, don't they?

First, the dems have a single candidate from the start. Secondly, they redeploy the very same tactic which worked for them, just the last time around.

On the other hand, the CA GOP is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

And is there any wonder the CA GOP is widely known as "The Stupid Party?"

Since the McClintock forces claim true ownership of California conservatism and the Republican party, do they deserve the label by extension?

[dwills]

MechaClintock better cut a deal before he takes the party down like Simon and loses his future at age 47

[Reagan Man]

On policy agenda issues, on social and fiscal issues, McClintock is just like Ronald Reagan. McClintock doesn't have the public communications skills and talents that The Gipper had, but nobody does.

You're California dreaming, if you think Arnold is anything like Reagan. Oh yeah, that's right. They were both actors. BFD!

[sruleoflaw]

NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE APOLOGY FROM ARNOLD'S FANS:

All day Saturday, I watch a thread that stated that California GOP Assemblyman Ray Haynes had endorsed Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governor. It was eroneously based on a Washington Post story. IT'S TIME -- NOW -- FOR ARNOLD'S FANS AND FANATICS TO START GETTING AT LEAST SOME OF THEIR FACTS RIGHT.

I am a California radio talk show, former newspaper reporter, and McClintock supporter -- AND THINK IT IS CRITICAL TO GET FACTS RIGHT. I am perturbed at the wrong and false information being posted on this website by Arnold fans, who can't get their facts right.

I CALLED ASSEMBLYMAN HAYNES' OFFICE IN SACRAMENTO TODAY TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT AT HIS APPARENT SUPPORT FOR MR. SCHWARZENEGGER. Well, there is no support for Arnold from Assemblyman Haynes. Ray Haynes HAS NOT ENDORSED ARNOLD FOR GOVERNOR -- SO YOUR ENTIRE LAUGHFUL THREAD ON SATURDAY WAS WRONG. If I seem disgruntled, there is a reason: Your information was wrong, wrong, wrong. I have a call into Assemblyman Haynes and expect a possible call tonight after he comes off the floor -- and I'm going to explain to him what some of Mr. Schwarzenegger's supporters are doing on this website.

NOW maybe someone can provide me with some information about the Bob Chandra/Schwarzenegger propaganda piece against the man who got our car tax reduced by 66%.
Who is Bob Chandra? I have never heard of him in the least in California politics. I would love to have a way to help him get this facts straightened out, too. IS THERE ANYONE ON THIS WEBSITE WHO IS SO BLIND THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE MEDIA MANIPULATION OF THE LA TIMES POLL SHOWING CRUZ WITH 35%. GET REAL FOLKS. Some 30% percent of Dems are polling support for the recall -- do you really think they're GOING TO BACK CRUZ? Mr. Chandra needs to work on his logic.

I suppose the Arnold fans have forgotten the Aug. 14 Sacramento Bee piece from a Democrat stating: "But the truth is that Arnold Schwarzenegger has an arguably historic chance to transform the Republican Party and thereby shift America's political center of gravity in ways that would PARADOXICALLY BE GOOD FOR DEMOCRATIC (PARTY) GOALS AND GREAT FOR THE COUNTRY. THINK FOLKS, THINK.

[Poohbah]

I've told friends to avoid walking past tall buildings October 8th if McClintock doesn't win. Members of the McClintock Kool-Aid Kult will be throwing themselves off of them...

[FairOpinion]

"Sometimes it's easier to make your oponent lose than help your candidate win. "

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BINGO. You just summed up the Davis/Bustamante/Dem strategy.

How do you think Davis won his previous elections?

[sruleoflaw]

HERE IS OUR NEW MESSAGE:

ARNOLD IS LIKE CLINTON (LYING ABOUT SEX AND ISSUES) AND CAN'T WIN.

ARNOLD CANNOT WIN.

ARNOLD CANNOT WIN.