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Federal appeals court in San Francisco overturns an estimated 100 death sentences.
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Posted on 09/02/2003 12:35:19 PM PDT by jern
Federal appeals court in San Francisco overturns an estimated 100 death sentences. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com (AOL Keyword: CNN) for the latest news.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; deathpenalty; judicialactivism; judiciary; liberals
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To: jern
AP reports that they were overturned because they were sentenced by a judge and not a jury.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:04:51 PM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
This is why my wife and I believe anyone leaving Kalifornia is a fool for stopping in OR, WA, ID, NV, or AZ. You still live under the 9th Circus....
A shovel, shotgun and truck ride in the desert seem a lot more like justice than the rulings from the Liberal judges.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:10:20 PM PDT
by
xusafflyer
(Keep paying those taxes California. Mexico thanks you.)
To: seamole
The case stems from a 2002 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, in which the high court found that juries, not judges, must render death sentences. But the Supreme Court left unclear whether the new rules should apply retroactively to inmates awaiting execution.
Anyone know where in the Constitution they found this requirement?
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:10:51 PM PDT
by
gitmo
(Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
To: Peach
The death penalty for all prisoners, eh? And the guards. Does that work for you too? How about those released on parole? Oh, I forgot, with a life sentence, the prisoner will never get paroled... Care to have one stay in your neighborhood?
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:11:16 PM PDT
by
TheDon
(Tick, tock, tick, tock...the sound of the clock ticking down the time until Tom drops out.)
To: Wolfie
Wolfie, I am sure you realize that the vast majority of elected officials in Calif are democrats since they control both houses and the govenorship and have for years.
I would bet that the vast majority of folks on the appeals court there were lawyers or judges from calif.
These were judges elected by calif. and retained over years.
If these murderers were doing their dirty deeds in Texas they would most likely be dead now. Why? Because the folks of Texas have been smart enough to elect more conservative jurists in the past.
Seems every ruling that comes out of the S.F. area court of appeals rubs against the American people or the constitution.
I am so very tired of Calif and its problems and the ones they give to the rest of the country I just wish they'd revert to Mexico and we'd be rid of them.
To: gitmo
Anyone know where in the Constitution they found this requirement? Maybe over by the "sodomy is a constitutional right" provision.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:16:12 PM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: jern
We have a right to a jury trial.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:31:10 PM PDT
by
VRWC_minion
(Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
To: seamole
SCOTUS Delenda Est!
I'd rather change it than destroy it. Considering it is one of the pillars of our wonderful republic.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:37:15 PM PDT
by
CanisRex
(my .02)
To: seamole
SCOTUS Delenda Est!
I'd rather change it than destroy it. Considering it is one of the pillars of our wonderful republic.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:37:18 PM PDT
by
CanisRex
(my .02)
To: dogbyte12
Ok, so the Supreme Court ruled in 2002, that juries must be the ones giving death out. Then didn't say if they meant this retroactively or not. By not stating, the supreme court created this issue. If the Supremes said, from this day forward, instead of leaving it ambiguous, there wouldn't have been the legal issue here. I can't say I really have a problem with this. I don't believe any who sentences have been commuted to life will ever get out. As far as the SCOTUS leaving open the question of "retroactive" or "from this day forward", I have to say right is right and wrong is wrong. I think its best that the jury sentence the convicted. If someone is on death row now, and were sentenced by a judge, I see no problem with them getting life without parole now. That's just my opinion.
To: jern
It's the 9th Circuit. It will be overturned...
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:50:39 PM PDT
by
telebob
To: TheDon
I don't know what your problem is, Don, but you seem to be inordinately angry because I said, if prisoners kill other prisoners, it wouldn't particularly bother me.
How that translated into your little tirade, I'll never know. But take it elsewhere.
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posted on
09/02/2003 1:55:10 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: jern
If this doesn't get reversed, these killers have the rest of their 'natural' lives to get pardoned by another corrupt POTUS.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:10:22 PM PDT
by
Ed_in_NJ
To: Wolfie
"A federal appeals court threw out ... because the inmates were sent to death row by judges instead of juries..."
Reverse "by judges instead of juries" and the activist justices would still have messed with the convictions. The federal courts are hostage to the Klintoon appointees now and won't get back to the law as written for decades.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:12:51 PM PDT
by
RicocheT
To: jern
Too bad we can't overturn judicial appointments and confirmations just as easy!
To: jern
Liberal, Socialist, Democrat: One and the same. Save a whale, commute a convicted murderer, free a murderer, free a sex offender, worship Stalin, kill an unborn baby.
Yup. All fits their definition.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:17:13 PM PDT
by
RetiredArmy
(We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
To: jern
More Judicial abuses from the 9th Circus Court of Appeals, the most over-turned court in America.
To: Peach
Oh, you misread my post. There is no anger there at all, just surprise at your poorly thought out position. From your response, I can see my attempt to enlighten you has been wasted. How unfortunate.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:18:04 PM PDT
by
TheDon
(Tick, tock, tick, tock...the sound of the clock ticking down the time until Tom drops out.)
To: seamole
I thought retroactive lawmaking was unconstitutional in these United States.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:24:53 PM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: TheDon
You wrote: How about the people they will kill while they serve their life sentences?
I wrote: You mean like other prisoners? It works for me.
You then wrote some stuff about death for all prisoners and how would I like to have a paroled prisoner living next door.
If I was unenlighted by your post, it was perhaps because it was not an articulate post.
You thought my position was poorly thought out. My position is pretty clear: As I said in my first post on this topic, I would not have a problem keeping these guys in prison for life, but we all know it doesn't work that way, unfortunately. I don't know which part of that you don't understand or think is poorly thought out, but then I haven't understood a thing you've posted to me since this thread began. So either I'm dumb or you are not articulate. I know which one I'm voting for! -):
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:37:01 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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