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1 posted on 09/02/2003 12:11:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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2 posted on 09/02/2003 12:12:47 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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The guy's views and positions are easy tagets for criticism...why the race card?
Dem tactics are unseemly, Joe.
7 posted on 09/02/2003 1:16:23 PM PDT by PRND21
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Jerry Pearce of AM860 Fresno, CA is doing just that type of investigation. He is a pro and a long time law enforcement professional and private investigator. He does a weekend show on AM860. You are familiar with google I am sure you can find his email address. I don't remember the call letters but I've found stations by just knowing the frequency and city.

What sparked Jerry's interest were a couple of calls from listeners who claimed to have witnessed Cruz "I call 'em the way I see 'em" Bustamante (D, Mexico) burning the American Flag. As of the last show I heard he has not been able to confirm it. If he can't confirm it it didn't happen.

13 posted on 09/02/2003 1:41:40 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT! Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets: "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are
the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. …..
Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council "They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions.
They’re right. We will take them over. …. We are here to stay."

Excelsior- The national newspaper of Mexico "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without
firing a single shot."

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas. ----- "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying.
The explosion is in our population. ….. I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it."

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party "Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens)
was the last gasp of white America in California."

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this
country….I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Jerry
Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Bill Clinton "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it
should leave."

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General We are practicing "La Reconquista" in California."

Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University: "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos…."

Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are
mainstream Mexican leaders.

THE U.S. VS MEXICO On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was
overwhelmingly pro Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held
upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer
and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the
most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."
16 posted on 09/02/2003 1:49:58 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
If you want to mine the story - start with Rudy Acuna's doctoral work @ UC Santa Barbara - then follow his work at CSUN - check out the Urban Archives Center ...all will be revealed...Hey it's your tax money!
25 posted on 09/02/2003 2:28:31 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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Check out the website American Patrol run by a guy by the name of Glenn Spencer (I think). He was the first person I know to pick up on these radicals.
He had some pictures of their leadership meeting in Lebanon with some of the Palistinian terrorist orgs.

Also run a Google search of La Voz de Atzlan or just Atzlan. They used to use that title for their newsletter. I don't know if the sites are still up.

There's a tenured professor at U. of New Mexico who's one of their radicals who's worked his way up in Academia. Can't remember his name, but if you run a Lexis Nexis search on MECHA you'll probably get a hit or two on him. He's always spouting off about removing the American Southwest back to Mexican rule.
28 posted on 09/02/2003 3:08:36 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Ah, he's just another red.
41 posted on 09/02/2003 4:51:23 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Another Bustamante Bump!
47 posted on 09/02/2003 7:01:17 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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Joe you are getting involved with oposition research against the democrap party in CA, hope you know what you are getting into. They are dirtier than the mafia and much more powerful. I have a little experience with this. Stay safe and stay armed.
48 posted on 09/02/2003 7:05:09 PM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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Race, California’s Final Solution
The Washington Dispatch | 9/3/03 | Patrick Rooney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/975132/posts

For the Race, everything, for those outside the Race, nothing. -Motto of MEChA
60 posted on 09/03/2003 8:33:47 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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Thanks, Joe. And surpris surprise - the same folks who love to toss the race card at secure border types are here defending MEChA. World of wonders.
85 posted on 09/03/2003 12:51:07 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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It would be very interesting to see if we could find out exactly where Bustamove was born. Apparently, there is no record of him having been actually born in California, little alone the US. Could El Commadante be our first Illegal Alien Governor?
108 posted on 09/03/2003 10:20:25 PM PDT by bootyist-monk (Thunder makes all the noise; lightning gets the job done)
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What about Mecha-Streisand?

115 posted on 09/03/2003 10:41:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Dear Joe,

I went to Fresno State in the 70's. There was a fairly decent school newspaper there called, "The Daily Collegian."
I am sure that most of the MECHA activities at that time would have been covered by this newspaper.

Have you tried this source in your effort to find the names of people who may have been either active in MECHA or known about MECHA activities?

No, I didn't know Cruz. No, I did not belong to MECHA, (wouldn't even have considered it, even though I am an hispanic female.) My parents were conservatives and probably would have disowned me and even still, I was too busy studying and getting grades good enough to get into grad school.

I wish you luck in your search.
139 posted on 09/04/2003 12:42:47 AM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
``State'' ping
144 posted on 09/04/2003 4:25:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Just the fact that MEChA is pulling their race hate web sites for Bustamante shows how the Nazis are running from the truth about what they are. If it was a harmless little Chicano social group --- they wouldn't need to pull the web pages.
161 posted on 09/05/2003 7:00:23 AM PDT by FITZ
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Here is a nice collection of quotes:

"I am not an American. There is nothing about me that is American. I don't want to be an American, and I have just as much right to be here as any of you." Thus spoke one individual identified as a "Latino activist" during a session of the "National Conversation on American Pluralism and Identity," a $4 million project funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.

"Oh, I know there's some voices who want to wall us off from Mexico"...."...it's so important for us to tear down barriers and walls that might separate Mexico from the U.S." --George W. Bush before Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Albuquerque, NM, 8/15/01

"In recent years a new International System has been developing, oriented toward the establishment of norms and principles of universal jurisdiction, above national sovereignty, in the areas of what is called the New Agenda...we have to confront ..... what I dare to call the Anglo-Saxon prejudice against the establishment of supra-national organizations." --Vicente Fox, to Club XXI, Hotel Eurobuilding, Madrid, Spain 5/16/02

While reports of their growing numbers are nothing new, word that Hispanics may have become the nation's largest minority has excited some of their North Texas leaders. "This will be a call to arms," said Dallas lawyer Adelfa Callejo, a longtime advocate and member of the League of United Latin American Citizens. Hector Flores, national president of LULAC, said the latest census report will mean little if it's not backed up by action. January 22, 2003

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this." This statement wasn't made in secrecy behind closed doors. It wasn't said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke it in Chicago on July 23, 1997.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population.... I love it. They are s**tting in their pants with fear. I love it.", "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."-- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas.

"We are practicing La Reconquista in California." --Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

Mommy told me -- ". . . we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us." --George P. Bush (son of Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his Mexican-born wife Columba, and nephew of the President speaking to a gathering of Hispanics)

"There's a growing feeling 'Why should we pay for all these senior citizens' if the majority of them are white and all they were willing to pay for was prisons?"--Rodolfo Acuna (professor of Chicano studies at Cal State Northridge)

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California." --Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party

"The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot." --Excelsior- The national newspaper of Mexico.

"We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.'"--Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor

"California is going to be a Hispanic state, and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe." --Mario Obledo, co-founder and President of MALDEF, 1968 to 1973; President of the League of United Latin American Citizens 1983-85, California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare 1975-82, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Bill Clinton Obledo announced that he would burn the CCIR's "illegal immigration" billboard on 6/27/98, it was subsequently taken down.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos...non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"--Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Republica del Norte," the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is "an inevitability." The new "Hispanic homeland" should be brought into being "by any means necessary." --Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico

". . . you are like the generals who command armies! We're in a state of war!"--Armando Navarro, professor, University of California.

"They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over. .. We are here to stay." --Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council

El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán MEChA (Chicano Student Movement): "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlan must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo with the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan." -- preamble to MEChA's national constitution.

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. ... Through love of having children, we are going to take over." --Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

La Voz de Aztlan, run by Hector Carreon of Whittier, California is openly hostile and anti-Semitic. They claim to be the provisional government of Aztlan: http://www.aztlan.net/

David Lopez, sociologist, California State University, Northridge: "In 1848, Mexico lost the war, but in 2050, Mexico will have reclaimed what was rightfully theirs."

Xavier Hermosillo, a Los Angeles radio talk show host In 1993, proclaimed on the CBS 48 Hours show that Mexican-Americans were taking political control of the "former Mexican colony, California ... house by house, block by block".

In a well-written Mankind Quarterly article, The Deconstruction of America, by Joseph Fallon, public officials Antonio Villaraigosa, majority leader of the California State Assembly and Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, speakers at the "Latino Leadership Summit Response to Prop 187" are mentioned for their apparent agreement with many declarations uttered at the meeting. Neither Villaraigosa nor Torres repudiated these comments: "English should be a foreign language"; "We are hostages in our own land, prisoners of war"; "We live under occupying alien force."; "We live in the annexed territories of AZTLAN"; and "We're in a state of war ...a vicious threat to our existence". And neither man condemned the repeated calls for the establishment of an independent country of Aztlan or the references to this country as "AmeriKKKa" and the "United Snakes of America".

Felipe Gonzáles, director of UNM's Southwest Hispanic Research Institute, said there's a "certain homeland undercurrent" among New Mexico Hispanics who believe land was stolen and promises broken. But, he said, a new nation would need much more widespread support.

"Educated elites are going to have to pick up on this idea and run with it and use it as a point of confrontation if it is to succeed," Gonzáles said.

Truxillo contends states have the right to secede under the Articles of Confederation of 1777, in which states retained "sovereignty, freedom and independence." He contends the Articles were not superseded in that regard by the U.S. Constitution and that although the Civil War settled the question militarily, it was never resolved by courts.

Palomas Mayor Julieta Avina has mastered the language of victimology: "To me, the lawsuit is racist, and I think this issue could lead to international problems along this part of the border." As for New Mexico residents who object to subsidizing Mexican children, Avina tells them to find some other place to live: "If they don't like Mexico they ought to move to Canada."

In 1986, Nicaraguan defector Alberto Suhr related to U.S. reporters what he and other Sandinista cadres had been told by Tomas Borge, the Sandinista interior minister. Borge, a ruthless henchman trained by Castro's DGI, instructed his comrades: "We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or 15 years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they're going to have one thing in mind - cross the border, go into Dallas, go into Houston, go into New Mexico, go into San Diego, and each one has embedded in his mind the idea of killing 10 Americans."

When Borge made that boast, he already had a sizeable fifth column of propagandists, foot soldiers, and narco-terrorists operating within the United States. Since then, several million more illegal aliens have entered the U.S., the Communist EZLN "Zapatista" forces in Mexico's Chiapas state have declared war on Mexico's corrupt and bankrupt ruling PRI regime, the Mexican economy has imploded, the drug cartels have taken control over much of Mexico, and the militant "Aztlan" movement has experienced a remarkable resurgence in U.S. Hispanic communities.
162 posted on 09/05/2003 8:01:06 AM PDT by Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector (You talkin' to me?)
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Excellant use opf FR!! THANKS for the work.
163 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:07 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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Excellant use of FR!! THANKS for the work.
164 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:12 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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MEChA -- the OTHER "Klan with a tan." (With apologies to Walter Williams.)
178 posted on 09/07/2003 9:45:56 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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