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Google sucked into RIAA/P2P fight
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Posted on 09/02/2003 9:34:50 AM PDT by chance33_98

Google sucked into RIAA/P2P fight

By Dinah Greek [02-09-2003] Search firm removes links to certain P2P sites following complaint from Kazaa creators

Popular search engine Google has been sucked into the ongoing legal battle between the Recording Industry of America (RIAA) and peer-to-peer sites (P2P). Following a court ruling in favour of the RIAA, Sharman Networks, the developers of the popular Kazaa P2P site, sent a letter to Google requesting that it remove links to certain sites.

Fifteen sites are thought to be in breach of the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), and are said by Sharman Networks to be running unauthorised copies of its Kazaa P2P software.

The letter demanded that Google should "immediately remove or disable all access to the infringing material".

Google has now removed the URLs from its search listings.

In a statement posted at the foot of its search results, Google said: "In response to a complaint we received under the DMCA, we have removed eight result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results."

Google has also posted a link to the letter from Sharman.

It has listed the full URLs of the sites it has removed, of which all but three still worked when tested by vnunet.com.


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1 posted on 09/02/2003 9:34:50 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The offending Google search: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=kazaa+lite
2 posted on 09/02/2003 9:36:46 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: chance33_98
What other good search engine should we use?
3 posted on 09/02/2003 9:43:22 AM PDT by JOE6PAK (Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.)
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To: chance33_98
http://www.kazaagold.com
http://mp3download.com
http://www.kazaalite.tk
http://www.kaaza.com
http://doa2.host.sk
http://www.k-lite.tk
http://www.kazaa-file-sharing-downloads.com
http://www.kazaalite.nl
http://home/hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm
http://www.kazaa-download.de
http://www.zeropaid.com
http//www.kazaalite.nl/downloads.htm
http://kazaa.infos-du-net.com
http://www.kazaa-lite.tk
http://www.kazaa-lite.info
4 posted on 09/02/2003 9:47:23 AM PDT by devnull (n/a)
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Now what if Google picks this thread up ?
5 posted on 09/02/2003 9:48:30 AM PDT by devnull (n/a)
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To: chance33_98
I don't see this doing them much good. Most people hear about the kazaalite sites by word of mouth anyway.
6 posted on 09/02/2003 9:48:48 AM PDT by Ex-Dem (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: devnull
I way RIAA is headed, I wouldn't be surprised if they subpeona FR for your IP number ;)...
7 posted on 09/02/2003 9:52:01 AM PDT by Ex-Dem (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: chance33_98
Google has also posted a link to the letter from Sharman.

It has listed the full URLs of the sites it has removed, of which all but three still worked when tested by vnunet.com.

Hoisted on their own petard. Their complaint lists all the sites anyway, and the publicity of the petition will only drive more traffic to them.

8 posted on 09/02/2003 9:58:25 AM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: chance33_98
Did I log onto Democratic Underground by mistake?
9 posted on 09/02/2003 10:30:49 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: chance33_98
Google is not the only search engine. I don't think this will help very much. Sounds like RIAA is getting desperate.
10 posted on 09/02/2003 10:42:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Jack Wilson
Did I log onto Democratic Underground by mistake?

So you're saying you have a logon for DU??? Hmmmm...

11 posted on 09/02/2003 10:53:01 AM PDT by chance33_98 (WWJD - What would Jefferson Do?)
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To: chance33_98
I do check it out now and then out of curiosity. And this thread, which seems to support the idea that recorded music should be free, would fit right in.
12 posted on 09/02/2003 11:28:13 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: Jack Wilson
And this thread, which seems to support the idea that recorded music should be free, would fit right in.

The minute the RIAA supports the idea that I can turn in my copies of vinyl and cassette for CDs, or that I can copy my DVDs for backup purposes, I'll start seeing things their way.

Otherwise, they're just a monopoly who is smarter than the pseudo-monopoly Microsoft - they knew to buy off the politicians before they went for the jugular.

13 posted on 09/02/2003 12:50:41 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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The minute the RIAA supports the idea that I can turn in my copies of vinyl and cassette for CDs...

So when you buy a copy of a book, the publisher also has to supply free copies in any other medium you wish? Why?

or that I can copy my DVDs for backup purposes...

When you buy other products do you get a free copy thrown in with the deal? Like, 2 coffee makers, in case the first one breaks down? DVD's and CD's are among the most durable products you can purchase; why do you need a backup?

14 posted on 09/02/2003 1:09:17 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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DVD's and CD's are among the most durable products you can purchase; why do you need a backup?

Your mind is made up. You're not debating - anyone could answer the question you posed. You shilling for money or for free?

15 posted on 09/02/2003 8:03:04 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
Your mind is made up. You're not debating - anyone could answer the question you posed. You shilling for money or for free?

If anyone could answer the question I posed, why didn't you?

16 posted on 09/03/2003 4:29:01 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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DVD's and CD's are among the most durable products you can purchase; why do you need a backup?

Obviously a fictious RIAA industry a**hole who doesn't have children or grandchildren. Or as my wife says a lot: "I can't have anything nice".

17 posted on 09/03/2003 6:18:52 AM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Jack Wilson
You don't have to believe that all music should be free to know that the RIAA is pure evil.
18 posted on 09/03/2003 6:23:54 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: an amused spectator
Be careful, soon you'll be called a thief for asserting that the RIAA has problems which could be solved without any litigation.
19 posted on 09/03/2003 6:24:13 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled
If anyone could answer the question I posed, why didn't you?

You know, this "thief" gets tired of the disingenuous "arguments" put up on the RIAA threads. Effing "Jack Wilson" acts likes he's never seen a child or grandchild In The Form Of The Destructor (to borrow a phrase from Ghostbusters).

**sigh** I suppose that is a "copyright violation" also. ;-)

20 posted on 09/03/2003 6:44:38 AM PDT by an amused spectator
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