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Atheist center’s fence is blasphemy in town
TRIBUNE-DEMOCRAT ^ | August 31, 2003 | SUSAN EVANS

Posted on 09/01/2003 8:58:58 AM PDT by Polycarp

Atheist center’s fence is blasphemy in town

By SUSAN EVANS, TRIBUNE-DEMOCRAT NORTHERN CAMBRIA BUREAU

August 31, 2003

GALLITZIN – Lorie Polansky views her new fence as a way of keeping out vandals who already have desecrated her building with foul materials.

Local officials view the fence as illegally built, with a corner intruding on a borough road. They’ve issued a citation and are threatening further legal action.

Bank officials next door to Polansky decline to complain publicly, but privately say they are unhappy with the fence being so close to their drive-in window.

It seems there’s no mending of fences anytime soon. The controversy hits a year after Polansky, widow of ex-priest and atheist author Joseph Polansky, bought a former barber shop on Railroad Street, painted it bright red and labeled it “Atheist Station.”

After the initial stir of controversy regarding her meeting place for Pennsylvania atheists, a peaceful coexistence seemed to evolve.

The Atheist Station’s own Web site proclaims that as a goal: “Paraphrasing Lincoln’s words, we want to assure you that Atheist Station wishes ‘malice toward none and charity for all.’ Please understand that this community, this nation, this planet, this universe is our church.”

But now, Polansky contends that such peaceful coexistence has too often been in appearance only, and that harassment has been unrelenting in conservative Gallitzin.

Vandals have broken her windows, thrown eggs and human waste at the front of the building, and jammed her front door, she said in a telephone interview.

But borough officials counter that vandalism, while unfortunate, doesn’t give Polansky the right to build an illegal fence, especially one that protrudes on what they say is municipal property, and that the atheist center screams for attention.

It’s near the tracks on Railroad Street and is highly visible from the borough’s main tourist attraction, a railroad museum that commemorates the famous tunnels built in 1854 and 1904, and were targeted for destruction by the Confederates during the Civil War and the Germans during World War II.

History aside, the fence issue revolves around legal issues.

Borough Solicitor David Congiglio said a fence or building cannot be put on a borough road or right-of-way. But if the borough abandons the road, then the property rights revert to the landowner, he said in a telephone interview from his State College office.

Actually, the road is more of an alley, and Polansky counters that she had her property surveyed, and that the borough gave up all rights to the land in 1989. Council members disagree.

“I know the bank doesn’t like it there, and it is a public road, and it’s been a public road as long as I’ve lived in Gallitzin,” said borough Councilman John Szynal.

“The corner post is sitting in the street, and someone could run into it. That’s the reason we’re doing it this way. It’s been a road all these years, and we maintain it,” he said in a telephone interview.

Portage National Bank is keeping a low profile in the controversy.

“We do not have any dispute or complaint with the Atheist Station regarding the fence, but beyond that we really don’t have any comment,” spokeswoman Cindy Petrosky said in a telephone interview from the bank’s main office in Cambria Township.

But at the branch bank in Gallitzin, there are concerns that the intruding fence could pose a hazard, especially in winter, when customers go through the drive-in, said an employee who declined to be identified.

Even some borough officials are now wavering on whether the fence is on borough right-of-way.

“This is a dispute that’s really between the bank and her,” said Council President Nancy Buck in a telephone interview.

“Yes, the borough issued her a citation. But we dug deeper, and it may be between the bank and her.”

Buck challenged Polansky’s assertion that she needs the fence to protect her building.

“It’s just a 3-foot fence, and even I could jump over it. I wouldn’t think it offers any protection,” Buck said.

Gallitzin Mayor Nancy Knee declined comment, except to say any of Polansky’s complaints about vandalism should be reported to borough police.

There’s the rub, said Polansky.

“We’ve had ongoing vandalism, and the borough has not been interested in putting a stop to it, or catching those responsible,” she said.

“We’ve had several hundreds of dollars worth of damage. Someone shot out the windows and the door, and they’ve thrown feces and other rotten materials on the building, and they've jammed stuff in the lock,” she said.”

Gallitzin police Chief Jerry Hagen did not return several telephone messages seeking comment.

Polansky said the atheist center’s highly visible location has been beneficial to her goal of serving as an information center and meeting place.

“We’ve had atheists stop by because they saw us while visiting the tunnel. Three weeks ago a young couple was passing through on their way to Ohio and stopped by, so it’s been fortuitous,” she said.

In terms of the fence, said Congiglio, “You need a permit for a fence. There’s no question about that.

“And if it’s a borough road, or right-of-way, no person can put a fence on it, no matter who they are,” he said.

Polansky wouldn’t mind some fence-mending, she said.

“I would like to avoid any legal hassle, but I’m ready to go to court if that’s what the borough wants. I have my ducks in a row.”

©Tribune Democrat 2003


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To: jlogajan
Reread the story. The vandalism is by...

The "story" does not say who did the vandalism.

21 posted on 09/01/2003 9:26:50 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: jlogajan; LanPB01; Robert_Paulson2; strela
But borough officials counter that vandalism, while unfortunate, doesn’t give Polansky the right to build an illegal fence, especially one that protrudes on what they say is municipal property, and that the atheist center screams for attention.

A couple of interesting things:

1. Where is the condemnation of those who would commit this vandalism? Had opponents of Roy Moore flung feces and rotten vegetables at his stone idol, there would have been hysterical howls of condemnation and outrage.

2. Her display is on her private property. You'd hope to see more defense of it.

3. If the fence comes down and this lady follows up by exercising her second amendment rights to end the vandalism that law enforcement seems unwilling to address, how many howls of outrage will we hear on the thread titled "PA atheist shoots good white Christian men"?

22 posted on 09/01/2003 9:27:25 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (if you can read this tagline, you're following too close)
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To: tallhappy
The "story" does not say who did the vandalism.

Now you are just in denial.

23 posted on 09/01/2003 9:27:42 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: LouD
In case you didn't know...us Atheists are the minority. It would be refreshing to meet people who share the same lack of belief instead if dealing with the same type of people, so-called "Christian", who are vandalizing her property (no very Christ-like by the way).
24 posted on 09/01/2003 9:27:56 AM PDT by Conservative Me
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To: dighton; aculeus; Chancellor Palpatine; hellinahandcart
Needs bigger lettering - they probably can't quite make it out from the surface of the moon yet. Unfortunately, even though I still don't agree with him, I think I have to concede to Judge Roy in the battle over whose display is more tasteful... ;)
25 posted on 09/01/2003 9:30:24 AM PDT by general_re (Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
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To: jlogajan
I missed the part of the "story" where the vandals were identified. Can you copy and paste it in your reply to this post. Thanks.
26 posted on 09/01/2003 9:32:31 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: dighton
Cool effect. I had a nice 35MM camera with several nice lenses from fisheye to deep telephoto, a good bag, and a decent bipod and monopod once. I made the mistake of lending it to my best friend going on a vacation 13 years ago, and I never got it back.....
27 posted on 09/01/2003 9:32:33 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (if you can read this tagline, you're following too close)
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To: Polycarp
These atheists are only happy when they're persecuting someone or feeling persecuted.

Pretty much like every other "religion" I've ever encountered.




Proudly posting since the Jurassic

28 posted on 09/01/2003 9:33:11 AM PDT by sinclair (The more effective you are, the louder your critics squeal. The DEMS are squealing now, eh?)
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To: general_re
That had to hurt, LOL. You are right, though.
29 posted on 09/01/2003 9:33:54 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (if you can read this tagline, you're following too close)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
These are crazy threads. Your post is a good example.

So much illogic in a short space.

So much of simply an attempt to pick a fight.

And you are serious. That's what's amazing.

30 posted on 09/01/2003 9:35:28 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Liberals always want to operate outside the law with special priviliges

It is also apparent that the fence placement is based upon a property line survey. The borough officials are admitting as much on closer inspection. Looks like the atheists have a strong encroachment case against the bank's roadway. They'll likely have to move the roadway off the atheist property.

31 posted on 09/01/2003 9:35:55 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: tallhappy
I missed the part of the "story" where the vandals were identified.

You'll have to seek professional help for your state of denial.

32 posted on 09/01/2003 9:37:29 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan; Chancellor Palpatine
Looks like the atheists have a strong encroachment case against the bank's roadway. They'll likely have to move the roadway off the atheist property.

Depends on how long it's been encroaching, I expect - the bank may very well have gained themselved an easement by now.

33 posted on 09/01/2003 9:38:26 AM PDT by general_re (Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
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To: Polycarp
I think it's particularly humorous that atheists would paraphrase a quote from Abraham Lincoln for their planetary church.

The full Lincoln quote:
"With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right-let us strive on to finish the work we are in."

34 posted on 09/01/2003 9:38:31 AM PDT by arasina (Tag line dedicated to my friend Don DiFranco, 9/11/01 WTC Tower 1)
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To: jlogajan
Again, re 31. What would that have to do with someone who crashes in to the post suing her?
35 posted on 09/01/2003 9:38:40 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
From the look of that fence you can see that it forces people into the street to walk, and anyone can hit that in the middle of the street. No municipality should put up with that, no matter what the business is.

It's just a matter of time before someone is hurt, and she better have her ducks in a row then, because they are going to sue the living daylights out of her, and the town, for now forcing her to remove it.
36 posted on 09/01/2003 9:38:41 AM PDT by I still care
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To: jlogajan
Apparantly private property rights only apply if you are Christian, or at least proclaim yourself to be.
37 posted on 09/01/2003 9:38:48 AM PDT by Conservative Me
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To: WellsFargo94
But borough officials counter that ... the atheist center screams for attention.

Yeah, well so does the local Baptist church.  It needs vandalising too, dunnit?
From the hatred of your followers, Jesus deliver us.
38 posted on 09/01/2003 9:39:33 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Conservative Me
I'm not advocating vandalism - I'm just curious why these atheists would feel the need for affiliation, and to proselytize their non-beliefs.
39 posted on 09/01/2003 9:39:47 AM PDT by LouD (Genuine GOP Vigilante - Accept no substitutes!)
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To: jlogajan
Again. Can you post that part of the story where the vandals were identified?

You say it is there. I'd think you could post it and help me out so I would see what you see.

40 posted on 09/01/2003 9:40:27 AM PDT by tallhappy
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