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Pro-lifers Should Focus On Morality Of Abortion
The Illinois Leader ^ | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 08/31/2003 3:03:15 PM PDT by mattcabbott

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1 posted on 08/31/2003 3:03:15 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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Welcome to FR.
2 posted on 08/31/2003 3:08:22 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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I think there's room for a variety of approaches. Certainly the moral issue--killing an innocent human being--is the primary issue, and should never be forgetten. But some people could care less. A few of them might be reached by other arguments.

Furthermore, it greatly weakens the credibility of organizations like NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood, when people realize that they not only don't care about the lives of babies, they also don't care about the lives, health, or safety of women if it conflicts with their precious "abortion right."

A great revolution or cause requires all sorts of different people and different methods to bring it about. That applies as much to the pro-life revolution as it does to any other crusade.
3 posted on 08/31/2003 3:11:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Pretty good essay.

In particular, the abortion breast cancer link is at the best, questionable. A pretty good study earlier this year showed that abortion, spontaneous or induced, actually lowered the incidence of breast cancer.
4 posted on 08/31/2003 3:15:21 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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Thanks! The reaction to my essay from certain pro-lifers, needless to say, wasn't so positive. One pro-lifer even accused me of "giving aid and comfort to the enemies of life."

Go figure.
5 posted on 08/31/2003 3:24:17 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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Saw a great bumper sticker today. Short, to the point and very poignant, "Abortion stops a beating heart"
6 posted on 08/31/2003 3:28:57 PM PDT by harrym
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I disagree. The most effective anti-abortion speach I ever heard was in a college speach class, given by a young woman in her early 20s who had an abortion at age 17. She spoke of the daily remorse she has had ever since and implored others in class not to do what she did. The effect was profound. Had she simply moralized on the issue, the mostly liberal audience would have simply come back with the stock "pro-choice" arguments. Instead you could see many actually had to question their own beliefs. I think she actually changed some peoples' minds.
7 posted on 08/31/2003 3:31:24 PM PDT by Hugin
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Uh, I don't know where the heck this guy has been - the only ones who have been concentrating on the "after effects" are the liberal press - ie abortion may be bad for your health, ladies.

As a Christian, the only focus I ever see from my church, friends and other Christians is the horror of the deaths - period. It is and always will be murder.

I give my pro-abortion friends copies of Psalm 139 - at least it makes them think the next time the subject comes up.
8 posted on 08/31/2003 3:32:11 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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Frankly, I'm sick of the "abortion-industrial-political-complex" that has surrounded this issue on both sides. The truth is that most religous anti-abortion folks are REALLY against unmarried sex and view abortion as an evil procedure that flushes away the evidence of a woman's sin.

Most pro-aborts are all about undermining the concept of responsibility and responsible motherhood especially. They want women to have the freedom to be just as sexually irresponsible as they believe men have historically been allowed to be in our society. They don't want to suffer the shame of their sins.

We would all be better off if the true motivation behind our positions were told upfront. THEN America would decide which moral code it wished to follow.
9 posted on 08/31/2003 3:32:39 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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re: "the physical, emotional and spiritual consequences that the life-taking procedure has on the women who procure it."

(Yes indeed, I have known a few women who had abortions because they "weren't ready" or "couldn't handle it", and so they terminated the pregnancy. Every single one I personally know, regrets it deeply. Years, and decades later. They often speak wistfully of what the child might have been like.)

AND JUST WOMEN??? Isn't this kind of SEXIST???

You think guys who maybe might be 'unwise' and think they are 'in love' with their 'one and only', don't suffer too? You think there are NO guys out there that don't also suffer emotional and spriritual consequences? I think any DECENT guy would suffer too!

OK confession. Had a girlfriend years back, and due to my love for her and hopes of marriage and children with her, didn't mind being 'unwise'.

So. Many, many times, I heard threats from her that IF she got pregnant with my child, she was going to have an abortion.

I FREAKED OUT EVERY TIME!!!

I swore up and down, that if she did, I would NEVER speak to her again. She claimed she "wasn't ready for another baby".

Well, dammit, who REALLY is ready for parenthood? I think most parents understand THAT! You deal with it and do the best you can!

The fathers have no say in abortion at all. So, best bet is to prevent the problem in the first place, by reversing the order, you know, marriage, then conception. Kind of a radical concept today, though.

But you know, I still love her deeply, although we have not spoken for over 18 years now.

Never found anyone else, so stayed single.

(tears)

10 posted on 08/31/2003 3:34:05 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth
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I happen to agree with you. Nice essay.
11 posted on 08/31/2003 3:35:49 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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Notice that everyone goes bonkers when a parent "HITS A TWO YEAR OLD TOO HARD" and the child dies....but the same folks remains "non-commital when it's called abortion.

If the first is wrong (deliberate action resulting unintended death), surely the second (deliberate action resulting in an intended death) is wrong. The only difference is "age".

12 posted on 08/31/2003 3:39:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Many, many times, I heard threats from her that IF she got pregnant with my child, she was going to have an abortion.

My 21-year-old son got his GF pregnant last year. She was going to have an abortion since she "didn't want a kid." My son, raised by pro-lifers, was very upset and told her "if she killed my kid," they were through, but to no avail -- she even had an appointment at the clinic, January 15th.

Praise God, she suddenly decided not to go through with it.

So our first grandchild, Teegan, was born last Wednesday! We're all crazy about her, especially her parents.

When I think about how she was almost not allowed to be born....well, I think my son's reaction to the idea of an abortion may have had something to do with her deciding against it, and I'm proud of him for that.

13 posted on 08/31/2003 3:53:13 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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There is really only one issue...what is that thing that is inside the mother's womb? If you can demonstrate that it is not a baby, so be it. If it is a baby, you can't kill it. BUT...if you are not sure whether it is a baby or not, what gives any person the right to take it's life away?
14 posted on 08/31/2003 3:59:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Praise Jesus! Wonderful news!!
15 posted on 08/31/2003 4:02:31 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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Thanks! I definitely see God's hand in this situation!
16 posted on 08/31/2003 4:06:44 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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It's a war that needs to fought on all fronts and fought with ferocity.
17 posted on 08/31/2003 4:10:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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That's too bad...you sound like a great guy, too! She lost out...a chance to have a child and a future with someone who loved her. ::sigh::

Like the ACLU, NOW is really doing a number on this country.

18 posted on 08/31/2003 4:13:32 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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Bump & Ping

read later...
19 posted on 08/31/2003 4:19:22 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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It's pathetic that we've come to this point, really. No wonder they took down the Trade Center. Perhaps western culture really is evil and deserves to be destroyed.
20 posted on 08/31/2003 4:26:12 PM PDT by PayrollOffice (Is this how it works?)
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