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1 posted on 08/30/2003 6:58:27 AM PDT by AAABEST
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ping
2 posted on 08/30/2003 7:02:55 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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3 posted on 08/30/2003 7:04:51 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
Note how Bush always betrays his most ardent supporters.
4 posted on 08/30/2003 7:05:03 AM PDT by LarryM
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...folks were disappointed that Bush didn’t try to reverse the proclamations, but said the administration has worked to relax some of the use restrictions on the designated lands,...

It took old Bildo five minutes with a pen to create this.
Why should the current administration have to work so hard to undo it?

Oh, I know, you have to re-elect them first.
6 posted on 08/30/2003 7:10:05 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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R.I.N.O.s The Real Fifth Column
8 posted on 08/30/2003 7:14:49 AM PDT by Crusader21stCentury
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To: AAABEST
Rove at work.
9 posted on 08/30/2003 7:15:19 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: AAABEST
Hey don't blame me. I didn't vote for either Clinton or the person who helped Clinton into office in the first place, Perot.

But you would rather go on your rants, rather than look at the point had their been no Clinton Presidency, no land grabs.

Bush is playing it smart, relaxing regulations slowly.

10 posted on 08/30/2003 7:22:03 AM PDT by Dane
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To: AAABEST
President Bush, I would like to know the answer to this one.
11 posted on 08/30/2003 7:23:15 AM PDT by freekitty
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Two lower courts have dismissed the cases, ruling that they did not effectively argue that Clinton misused the Antiquities Act, and even if he did, the statute does not allow for judicial recourse. The White House pointed to these rulings as reason enough for the High Court to keep them off its docket.

"Even if petitioners had timely pleaded a claim that the president abused his discretion in applying the Antiquities Act standards to the designations at issue here, petitioners would not be entitled to judicial review of that contention,”

These are the points I believe are important. The Solicitor General’s office is protecting Presidential Power.

They do not want a precedent set that would limit Presidential Power.

15 posted on 08/30/2003 7:28:00 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: AAABEST
Just to be fair, I think we should declare national monuments in other states - how about seizing about half of the land area of NY, NJ, DE, CT, demolish all structures and restore the land to its pristine beauty.
19 posted on 08/30/2003 7:42:12 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: AAABEST
The Cascade Siskiyou Ecological Emphasis Area was declared in Clinton's last days right over the border from my district in southern Oregon. http://www.or.blm.gov/CSNM/archive_notice_of_intent.htm

Much of the area is private land. Rules are the people can stay until they go to sell, then they have to sell to the government.

The local Oregon county held hearings and the majority of people did not want the monument. There was a vocal minority of leftists from Ashland who favoured it. They call it the "staging area for the Ark" because of its alleged bio-diversity.

They also tried to fold in my area by including a big mass of private land around the Horseshoe Ranch - a deer reserve co-managed between the BLM and CA DFG. They have tried all sorts of sneaky underhanded things to create a plan to target acquisition of more land east of the I-5 corridor from the border to the Klamath River. Locals and our Board of Supervisors vehemently oppose this.

The newest phase is the acquisition of a corridor of land from Copco Lake up into Oregon at J.C. Boyle dam from PacifiCorps. Cooincidentally, the BLM has PacifiCorps in a vise grip over the relicensing of its 6 dams on the Klamath. The BLM wants to destroy white water rafting, close motorized access, eliminate grazing, eliminating peaking power generation at Copco dam and change the flows. The Board of Supervisors opposes this proposal.

The BLM has been extremely arrogant and underhanded in its continuing push to federalize more lands across the top of the state. It consistently goes against the loud and vocal opposition of local people and seems to march to an urban environmental agenda. About 62% of the county is already managed by the feds.

We are seeing an increasing pressure to set aside land and water use in our mid-Klamath area as a mitigation for the Klamath Project.
36 posted on 08/30/2003 9:10:37 AM PDT by marsh2
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Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

38 posted on 08/30/2003 9:49:19 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: AAABEST
As long as the trains run on time .. And so on the story goes . Hell , this is every statist dream come true .
41 posted on 08/30/2003 10:04:06 AM PDT by Ben Bolt ( The Spenders ...)
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To: AAABEST
I'm going to go way out on a limb and say the Bush strategy is to deny the courts a chance at a ruling. Maybe he has a new executive order up his sleeve canceling the Clinton one.

If you take it to court and get an adverse ruling, you're stuck.
44 posted on 08/30/2003 11:30:56 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: AAABEST
I'm a city boy, so I'm OK. For now. Do you know what a "kulak" is? Look it up.

Growing up in New York City and living most of my life in various big cities, has somehow despite all efforts to the contrary left me in favor of liberty.

"Kulak" is the operative word here. You owe it to yourself to look it up.

47 posted on 08/30/2003 4:58:41 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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