Schwarzenegger Would "Do Damage" to Republican Party Suggests Political Analyst

LifeSite.net ^ | August 28, 2003

[MrNatural]

..If Arnie were to drop out, and encourage all who supported him to support Tom, Tom would still lose. The under 40 crowd either won't turn out, or will vote otherwise, and the demons would unite behind bushamecha..

That's the other side of the situation, exactly. It's Arnold that has quintupled calls to the republican party about registering to vote, not Tom. For them, Tom is just another Sacramento politico. That's all they know. It's Arnold's entry into the race that made the recall seem real. Like it could really happen.

If AS dropped out, I don't think the recall itself would succeed.

[huck von finn]

The purists will sit back and admire their handiwork as they endure busta-doofus.

I'm not from California, but Arnold's past is far worse than "checkered."

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Wait, you have it backwards.

McClintock was saying that when ARNOLD drops out, that McClintock will accept ARNOLD'S endorsement.

No concept of reality. Well, that's par for the course for a career politician.

[marsh2]

I want clarification on Arnold's stand on environmental regulation. Everything I have read indicates he is Green. If so, his appointees are likely to be Green. Overburdensome regulation and the undermining of private property ownership rights has been the bulkwork of socialism and the destruction of the rural economy in California. I don't see how he can be a "fiscal conservative" and believe in a Green agenda.

However, he has not exactly expounded upon his views in this area. I am still waiting for some definitive speech.

[Osage Orange]

You wrote:

"That's a real good idea. Vote for the trash candidate -- hashish smoker, orgy participant. BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE IN POWER. THE ARNOLD SUPPORTERS ON THIS WEBSITE LIKE YOU TRULY MAKE ME ILL.

The Founders of this nation ALWAYS believed that the people elected to power would be the most moral, the most righteousness, the most honorable among us."

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First let me say..I'm no longer a Calif resident..and I'm very suspicious of SchwarzenKennedy..And at this point in time wouldn't vote for him...even if I could.

But.....I've certainly done things in my past...that I'm not proud of. Isn't it more important that someone prove themselves to be changed...and possibly better for their experiences..than for some to forever hold that against them?

I agree the premise SHOULD be to elect the leaders amongst us. Those who can show "us" the errors of our ways...Those among "us" who are up-standing citizens, and strive to always be the best people they can be....moral, honest, hard-working, humble, strong of conviction type people. But are these people expected to be pure as the wind driven snow? Are these people expected to have zero historical blemishes?

Sure...I agree, the past can be a window on a person's character, or lack thereof. But like steel being tempered....some come thru the "fire" of a intemperate time...better & stronger for it.

fwiw-

[68 grunt]

I shouldn't get credit for that prediction, mearly the hope.

[McGavin999]

If we were talking about becoming the governor of Indiana I'd agree, but we're talking about California.

[MrNatural]

..Curious to see what the true believers will do when McClintock steps aside...

I hope they'll do what I would do if AS dropped out: unite behind the remaining candidate.

If Arnold drops out, I don't even see the recall passing, but I'll still turn out to vote for it, and for Tom. I voted for Simon in the primary and Simon in the election, and we'll lose with Tom like we lost with Bill, for the same reasons. But I will turn out.

[68 grunt]

If AS dropped out, I don't think the recall itself would succeed.

Kinda tough to call for me. I'd like to be behind McC, but would rather have incompetence as opposed to traitorousness. Arnie fires 'em up, just like The Duke.

[68 grunt]

Awwww

Go Arnie

[68 grunt]

No, I think I had it exactly right, he was making the joke in reaction to pressure he's been receiving. I speculate that he is hearing it a lot.

[tpaine]

In an "anything goes" social liberal state, the first thing to go is your money--to the state, to pay for the excesses of social liberalism.
-Kevin Curry-


" -- the federal Bill of Rights was designed as a limitation on federal power only."

 Posted by Kevin Curry to tpaine
On News/Activism ^ 08/27/2003 8:18 PM PDT #90 of 129 ^



Curry, once again you 'out' yourself as a complete hypocrite..
Here you are raving & ranting about "socialist liberal states", while you advocate that they have such power.

Go figure.
17 -tpaine-



BlackElk wrote:
"Republicans are Republicans and left libertarians are left libertarians."


And 'black elks' support statist gun grabbers like curry? -- What's your point?

[Timesink]

This stupid theory put Bloomberg in power...

There are two things that put Bloomberg in power:

1) The New York voters' idiotic institution of TERM LIMITS a decade or so ago, when it was the "hip, cool" political fad sweeping the nation. The is little question Rudy would have run again if he could have, and zero question that he would have won.

2) Because the Democrats got caught up in the same sort of pissing match that you describe, not the Republicans. In the primary, the two main RAT candidates both played the race card on each other so venomously (pitting blacks vs Hispanics) that in the end, most Hispanics either stayed home or voted for Bloomberg because they were filled with hatred for the RAT candidate, Mark Green. (And Green would not have been any better than Bloomberg. He probably would have been even worse. New Yorkers were screwed either way.)

(I know some people would make the argument that Herman Badillo lost to Bloomberg in the GOP primary because of a similar "strong conservatism won't fly in NYC" argument, but I don't believe it; Bloomberg won because he blew $20 million of his own cash on the primary alone, and crushed Badillo 72%-28% because of it.)

[ninenot]

At this point in the race, the Dems are concentrating their fire on Schwarz... because they think that such fire will win the race for Busta.

It is curious, but portentous that they have not yet loosed their sulphurous slime on McClintock.

[68 grunt]

conservative - conservation. You mean he brings greens in too! Man, how cool is this, he unites across so many boundries. Go Arnie

[MrNatural]

..They seem to think that civilization will end when Arnold is sworn into office...

Don't these discussions seem a lot like those of the 2000 election, when the Brigades were in full cry?

I'm almost expecting to see: ARNOLD=CRUZ=NWO :)

[68 grunt]

You treat blackilk like kevie, with contempt and scorn? I knew he was whack, but I didn't know he was that bad. Thanks.

[Cultural Jihad]

Well said.

[Cboldt]

You are flat wrong about what I approve of.