Abortion figure Paul Hill faces execution

The Kansas City Star ^ | Thu, Aug. 28, 2003 | DAVID CRARY - AP

[Texas_Dawg]

The Lion executing the murderers of babies ? Absoultely. After all Jesus beat and ran the moneylenders out of the temples.

Did he kill them?

[kdf1]

Abortionists don't kill for their beliefs. They do it for money. The man that murdered the abortionist is certainly guilty of murdering a murderer. Vengeance belongs to God. Why is there so much fuss about one abortionist being killed compared to the aquiesence of the murder of these babies?

[Texas_Dawg]

There are a lot of Christians that believe in using deadly force to save lives.

You're not saving any lives. You are actually going to lead to more killing by driving public opinion away from the pro-life direction in which it's moving.

[Spyder]

We can't have it both ways. Not logically anyhow. Either abortion is murder and needs to be prevented, or it's not and we have no business calling it baby-killing.

Aye, there's the rub. Those who are pro-choice DON'T believe it is murder, particularly the earlier the pregnancy. Throw in the rabid folk who believe that since the pill rarely acts as an aborifacient and thus should be banned, or that an IUD in preventing implantation is "killing a baby," and the pro-choice argument makes a lot more sense.

Until such time as you can get a majority of people to believe that a 2-celled sperm/egg is the same as a baby, you're not going to get abortion banned.

[kdf1]

Abortionists don't kill for their beliefs. They do it for money. The man that murdered the abortionist is certainly guilty of murdering a murderer. Vengeance belongs to God. Why is there so much fuss about one abortionist being killed compared to the aquiesence of the murder of these babies?

[Texas_Dawg]

Jesus Is Coming And Boy Is He Pissed!

Haha. That's great. Another good one that fits these wackos and the Roy Moore crowd just as much is:

Jesus is Coming!!
(Look busy.)

[Ronaldus Magnus]

a Presbyterian minister who gunned down an abortion doctor will next week become the first American executed for anti-abortion violence.

As a former confirmed Presbyterian, I have to admit my own surprise about there being any Presbyterians left who take their faith so seriously that they would kill or die for it.

[Texas_Dawg]

As a former confirmed Presbyterian, I have to admit my own surprise about there being any Presbyterians left who take their faith so seriously that they would kill or die for it.

As a Presbyterian, I thank God that the Presbyterians I know have a much better understanding of Christ and His grace than Paul Hill. And it shows in their lives.

[Imal]

"So other than trying to be sarcastic .. what is your point ?"

None whatsoever. Sarcasm is just one of the services I offer.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Anyone who sheds blood without cause is guilty of murder. The man who killed the abortion doctor is guilty of murder and apparently will be justly executed for his crime.

But lets keep in mind that people who have blood on their hands by murdering babies will not escape God's wrath. They will be judged not in this life but the next.

I fear for this this nation that God is just and that his justice will not sleep forever... To quote one of the founding fathers.

[Texas_Dawg]

But lets keep in mind that people who have blood on their hands by murdering babies will not escape God's wrath. They will be judged not in this life but the next.

Or saved.

[MHGinTN]

You wrote, "Until such time as you can get a majority of people to believe that a 2-celled sperm/egg is the same as a baby, you're not going to get abortion banned." That has to be one of the stupidest spin jobs a fool liberal has ever foisted at FR! Your abject ignorance regarding nascent life, or your absolute defense of abortion on demand no matter how stupid, I have yet to figure it out about you. But you could help us here, by adding a few more well spittled droplets. Care to expound on your 'position'?

[swilhelm73]

Actually, the majority, and by a large margin, of the American public opposes abortion on demand. That's why the leftists went through the courts instead.

Pro-aborts don't value human life, so I guess it would be far to much to expect them to value our republican system of government either.

[Spyder]

Sorry, but there are way too many on this thread condoning vigilantiism. Your comments regarding nascent life are your own beliefs, apparently somehow involved with a soul entering a fetus at the instant of conception. An ethics professor once commented that prior to the development of brain waves, there wasn't much difference between abortion and pulling the plug on a brain-dead individual. Or do you justify keeping someone on life support forever? Even the Bible treated a murderer differently than someone who caused a woman to miscarry.

Below courtesy of Monty Python.

 Every Sperm is Sacred

There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, 
But,
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. 
You're a Catholic the moment Dad came,
Because...

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Children: Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Little Girl: Let the heathens spill theirs,
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

Children: Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Mother: Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Men on toilets: Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
Women: If a sperm is wasted,
Children: God gets quite irate.

Priest: Every sperm is sacred.
Bride and Groom: Every sperm is good.
Nannies: Every sperm is needed
Babies: In your neighbourhood!

Everyone: Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
Undertakers: God needs everybody's.
Male mourner: Mine! 
Female mourner: And mine!
Corpse: And mine!

Nuns: Let the Pagans spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
Statues: God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

Everyone: Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaate!

[MHGinTN]

You're so full of fecal material, your eye's are turning brown. Here's a clue, spittlebreath, there is a fundamental differnce in an organ and an organism. Sperm and ova are cells of an organ; an embryo is a whole organism. Your effort to divert attention from your stupidity is amusing only because I'm a Python fan. You, on the other hand, are below droll, beyond inane, and quite blissfully ignorant. Enjoy yourself ...

[JOHANNES801]

OK if we cant shoot the babykillers can I at least beat the hell out of a few?

[Agnes Heep]

I think that if you took an honest poll of public opinion on the subject of abortion in the United States you'd emerge half encouraged and half dejected. Most people here believe that abortion should be available in rare, exceptional instances, such as rape, or where the mother's life is at stake; most would confine abortion to the early stages of pregnancy, where an unborn child doesn't actually look like an unborn child. Yet most are completely ignorant of the philosophical underpinnings of the anti-abortion argument, and especially of the need to provide an objective standard for defining when human life begins. Until this changes, public opinion will always come down on the side of abortion; and since no objective standard for defining the beginning of human life exists, the public will support extreme positions on abortion simply to keep it from becoming unavailable. I wish I knew what to do about this, because abortion is one of the ugliest aspects of Western culture, and something that I think will eventually bring us down.

[nathanbedford]

Out in the Panhandle and elsewhere in Florida there are a lot of men that need killin' but they ain't no babies that need killin'.

[MHGinTN]

I'm afraid you've missed the mark, slightly. You asserted that "... since no objective standard for defining the beginning of human life exists ..."; I will assume you are somewhat familiar with the notions of human cloning and embryonic stem cell harvesting. The objective standard of the science of embryology bases the two aforementioned technological achievements upon the first principle of embryology, that an individual human life begins at conception. Even the use of amniocentesis is based upon this fundamental assumption regarding individual human life.

The heartbreaking truth is, objective truth is available for deciding this issue, but the sovereigns of America want to continue defending the indefensible while pleading that there is no objective solution to the notion of when individual lifetimes begin. I don't think that argument will stand before God and it is definitely leading our nation into cannibalism at an ever increasing pace. Your individual human lifetime began at conception, your unique conception. When scientists kill embryos to get their stem cells for treating another's infirmity, they are cannibalizing another individual human life. PERIOD. When an aborticutionist slaughters an alive organism ina human womb, that abortionist has killed an individual human being. PERIOD. I call abortionists 'serial killers' because that is precisely what they do for their income.

[Saundra Duffy]

Two wrongs never make a right. Pro life is pro life. Period.