Posted on 08/29/2003 4:23:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
True. So exercise that choice and that's that. I for one am sick and tired of all the bellyaching.
That argument might hold water if anything would have been done to close the borders. Until then, it is either a bad joke or a move to consolidate power in the hands of a few of the ruling class.
Richard W.
Absolutely right and I'm not about to let a bunch of political weasels and pretenders take it away by trying to scare me into giving up my personal freedoms with hyped war and terrorism hysteria.
Richard W.
Oh now that's creative but sadly, so typical of party lobyalists.
Richard W.
Have you taken a good look at John Ashcoft?
You can't be counted on to help the GOP keep the Democrats out of power.
What difference does it make? Behind curtain #1, you get a liberal. Behind curtain #2 you get a liberal who says he's a republican.
Your purist ideology comes before country and party.
Unlike political party hacks and loyalists, conservatives take the constitution seriously. It is the foundation of our great country and our freedoms. When Republicans become a threat to that fine document, they must also go.
Richard W.
That's not the President's job. That's for the private sector.
more wars
There's only one. What other wars are there?
and lies from our elected officials. Why not return to Constitutional government?
So if it's not Bush, Hillary! or Dean will give you what you're looking for? Surely you jest.
Neither you nor I will get every single thing we want. It simply won't happen. So why delude yourself? This nation has been on a leftist slide for over 70 years. To think that it will reverse course automatically is, well, unwise. And that's putting it mildly.
Your rejection of the political parties contributes to the erosion of the Constitution. The parties recruit/nominate/select... the people that the electorate will vote into power. Those people will then use the enormous power that the Constitution grants them to make laws and confirm judges and justices, and everything else that affects our everyday lives for better or worse.
The Constitution, to a large degree, is whatever five Justices (a majority) interpret it to be at any given time, based on their ideology, and regardless of what the Founders intended or the expectations of the citizenry.
With the parties playing such a key role, that makes them more influential than a bunch of angry or self-disenfranchised Liberals, Conservatives, Libertarians, or whatever.
It's exactly what's happening. It's not complicated.
I think it can be assumed that they are all honorable Americans that have taken oaths to protect and defend the Constitution. When push really comes to shove, I would hope that they would rise above their personal ideologies and honor their oaths.
Idealism has its place but, in this regard, you are not facing reality.
Arete, I understand your frustration. Please share with me any thoughts on who you would consider voting for in 2004.
CM55, I like your attitude and dedication. Perhaps W will become more conservative once re-elected. I'd like to think so. I also agree, having hillary clinton as president would be hell on earth. Like Arete, I am wary about simply voting by party line. Still, 'better the devil you know than the devil you don't'.
I really believe that it is time for a third party that hasn't become totally corrupted like the two we now have. We now have a professional ruling class who puts the welfare of special interest contributors above concern of doing what is right for the American people. Washington is full of con artists and crime family representatives posing are honorable elected officials. It's time for a house cleaning It is time for a third party that actually protects the constitution and represents the citizens.
Richard W.
If a third party ever gained any political clout, it would do whatever is necessary to retain and expand that clout just like the other parties do. Rather than solving a problem, it would further complicate things and wind up turning more people off to the political process, IMO.
The Democrats, who don't seem to care about the Constitution, would benefit by a third party claiming to "protect the constitution" because it would split the Republican/Conservative vote.
Richard W.
Then you will eventually wind up with a third major party with currupt Conservatives in addition to the existing currupt Socialists. The total currutpion will be increased overall.
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