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Horowitz’s Academic Freedom: It Sounds Good, But . . .
Washington Dispatch ^
| Aug 29, 2003
| Cathryn Crawford
Posted on 08/29/2003 8:56:41 AM PDT by Sparta
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posted on
08/29/2003 8:56:42 AM PDT
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Sparta
To: Cathryn Crawford
ping
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posted on
08/29/2003 8:57:04 AM PDT
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Sparta
(Sending the UN back to Iraq is like sending the Taliban back to Afghanistan)
To: Sparta
INTSUM - EDUCATION
To: Sparta
Instead of freeing the campuses from dirty politics, it makes dirty politics the name of the game from the moment a potential faculty member sets foot on a campus. Thats what it is right now. TAX MONEY subsidizes Academia, yet they pursue radical politics not representative of the public at large. A conservative proffessor appointment can be vetoed by a single Marxist Proffessor. The only way to make the faculty responsive is to squeeze their funding. Does the author have another plan, or should we just wring our hands forever?
To: Sparta
I seem to remeber that article. It sounded like satire to me. but maybe I'm thinking of a different one
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08/29/2003 10:01:28 AM PDT
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chesley
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:17:41 AM PDT
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Cathryn Crawford
(Ummm, moron. It's not free. It was paid for with taxes.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
Thanks Cathryn for the bump and the article.
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:19:45 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Cathryn Crawford
Good job. :-)
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:24:05 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(When does the next Crusade start?)
To: Cathryn Crawford
making it a law that the governments investigate the politics of every professor or administrator on every campus in America.Thought police, literally!
Good article!
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:29:34 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
I thought that a professor was supposed to be a professor, not a political theorist.ALL, I repeat, ALL of my eldest son's professors, are raving liberals who bring their bias into the classroom.
Horowitz's solution at least attempts to address that problem, absent SOME kind of change, education will continue to deteriorate into brainwashing.....NOT education.
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:39:57 AM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: Cathryn Crawford
I agree. A quota system might favor conservatives in the short term, but it is a terrible idea.
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:46:43 AM PDT
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: BOBTHENAILER
ALL, I repeat, ALL of my eldest son's professors, are raving liberals who bring their bias into the classroom. This semester, all of mine are, too. My Constitutional law professor is farther to the left then Howard Dean. He never fails to spend at least half of the class time bashing conservative thought, especially as it relates to the Constitution. Strict constructionists are his worst enemy. He calls Justice Scalia every name in the book, and he does it every class.
Horowitz's solution at least attempts to address that problem, absent SOME kind of change, education will continue to deteriorate into brainwashing.....NOT education.
True. I'm not denying the problem, and I'm not denying that the education system needs change. However, I do not think that involving the government in universities (especially private universities) is the proper solution. I don't want the government choosing my professors.
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posted on
08/29/2003 10:50:49 AM PDT
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Cathryn Crawford
(Ummm, moron. It's not free. It was paid for with taxes.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
When I was an undergraduate, I majored in economics. I remember the faculty being fairly well balanced politically. I guess I'm just naturally inclined to be a devil's advocate because I remember having a tendency to ask questions and take positions that were adverse to the prejudices of each particular professor. I honestly don't remember ever feeling that I was treated unfairly by any professor for challenging his/her views and actually developed some close and friendly relationships with some of them.
Most of what I learned as an undergraduate came from the books that I read and not from any personal beliefs of professors. In my particular major, the trick was to really master the underlying principles and to understand exactly how they were derived. Once that was accomplished, the peculiar prejudices of any professor became more or less irrelevant.
Another great column, Cathryn!! You're still the best! ;-)
To: Nonstatist; Cathryn Crawford
Thats what it is right now. TAX MONEY subsidizes Academia, yet they pursue radical politics not representative of the public at large. A conservative proffessor appointment can be vetoed by a single Marxist Proffessor. The only way to make the faculty responsive is to squeeze their funding.
IMHO, the only way to end these types of problems is to eliminate government funding for education completely at all levels.
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08/29/2003 11:04:14 AM PDT
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Sparta
(Sending the UN back to Iraq is like sending the Taliban back to Afghanistan)
To: Cathryn Crawford
I'm surprised you didn't call this what it is: Affirmative Action for conservative academics in the name of diversity.
It shares all the same inherent fallacies, myths and therefore implementation difficulties (see the movie Soul Man).
To: Cathryn Crawford
He calls Justice Scalia every name in the book, and he does it every class. Funny, I remember my own Con Law prof. He was a proud liberal, as most of them are, but we got off on a tangent about Scalia one day. His take on the good judge was that, as an unabashed liberal, he disagreed with virtually everything that Scalia stood for. However, as an honest unabashed liberal, he couldn't help but admit that Justice Scalia was also one of the most brilliant legal minds to ever sit on the Supreme Court.
That's what you need, and what I don't mind - honest and forthright liberal professors ;)
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08/29/2003 11:17:03 AM PDT
by
general_re
(Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
To: optimistically_conservative
I'm surprised you didn't call this what it is: Affirmative Action for conservative academics in the name of diversity. It's odd that you say that. When I had my notebook, writing my inital thoughts for this column, the very first thing I wrote was Affirmative action for ideologies? in big letters.
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08/29/2003 11:20:40 AM PDT
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Cathryn Crawford
(Ummm, moron. It's not free. It was paid for with taxes.)
To: general_re
My Con law proffesor talks about how the Supreme Court is full of brilliant legal minds, but he turns into a raving lunatic at the mention of Scalia's name. Sometimes I'm tempted to just whisper, "Scalia...Scalia...Scalia" during class to see what happens.
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08/29/2003 11:22:10 AM PDT
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Cathryn Crawford
(Ummm, moron. It's not free. It was paid for with taxes.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
My Con law proffesor talks about how the Supreme Court is full of brilliant legal minds, but he turns into a raving lunatic at the mention of Scalia's name. See, now that's clearly the mark of someone who has abandoned any pretense at objective scholarship. Agree with him or disagree with him if you like, but only dilettantes and fools can deny the intellect of Antonin Scalia. And I don't agree with Scalia on everything, but I can make a very good case that in terms of pure intellectual firepower, there is Scalia and Oliver Wendell Holmes in one camp, and everyone else in the other. And honest liberals who are serious students of the court cannot help but also admit that he is brilliant - as opposed to your professor, who is either a fool, a fraud, or not a serious scholar. Either way, that sort of attitude is the attitude of someone who does not belong in academia.
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08/29/2003 11:31:17 AM PDT
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general_re
(Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
To: general_re
Agree with him or disagree with him if you like, but only dilettantes and fools can deny the intellect of Antonin Scalia. I very calmly made this point yesterday to him, and he began talking about how Scalia "carrys around a pocket Constitution and beats people over the head with it."
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08/29/2003 11:33:30 AM PDT
by
Cathryn Crawford
(Ummm, moron. It's not free. It was paid for with taxes.)
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