Dr. James Dobson: "We're Not Going To The Back of The Bus"

FoxNews

[Happy2BMe]

Dr. James Dobson, a well-known and respected national Christian leader in speaking at a rally in front of the Alabama Courthouse containing the disputed monument of the Ten Commandments compared the ongoing struggle with that of the Black equal rights movement of the 1950's.

Dr. Dobson described the irony of how in 1955 when Rosa Parks refused to "Go to the back of the bus." by racially-driven bigots sparked a national equal rights movment and said that another national "movement" was now underway to protect the rights of Christians.

Dr. Dobson declared, "We are not going to the back of the bus!" in alluding to a growing consensus of Christian-Americans who would no longer tolerate being treated as citizens with lesser rights.

[BabsC]

Now you're being silly.

[isthisnickcool]

Now you're being silly.

That's what some people told these folks originally about their concerns about this guy.

[Dataman]

Bottom line: These religious symbols were legal when our founding father's wrote the Constitution. At that time there were not Buddhists and Hindus and Muslims here. If it now makes many Americans uncomfortable to have these symbols around, pass a law saying that all religious symbols should be removed from public places.

The offenders are too small and too far left to do it the right way. Flooding the courts with libs, as they have flooded public colleges in the same way, is the only hope of forcing their selfish myopia on us all. Pleading with them to conduct themselves properly according to the law is futile since we know they consider themselves above the law, which is only a tool for them to use in their favor.

[Ginosko]

"One man's opinion anyway."

Some very thoughtful insight, too, I might add.

[garbanzo]

This is nothing more than the wounded pride (isn't that a sin?) of Christians. There is no religious issue here since nothing in the Bible mandates a public display of the Ten Commandments. No one's rights are being violated here.

[Happy2BMe]

" No one's rights are being violated here."

You seem to be astute on this issue, so may I ask you a question please?

What written law was violated by displaying the Ten Commandment Monument in the rotunda of the Alabama Federal Building in Montgomery, Alabama?

[Ginosko]

You know something, most Americans- more than 75%- actually support Judge Moore. That means that those who so vociferously oppose the Ten Commandments represent, in reality, only a very small minority. The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes? Is it that the God fearers have grown apathetic, disinterested, or uninvolved? As you say, there is indeed darkness at work here but the situation is far from hopeless.

[Happy2BMe]

"The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes?"

Answer:

U.S. Supreme Court, 2003 - The Oligarchy*

Back Row (left to right): Ginsburg, Souter, Thomas, Breyer
Front Row (left to right): Scalia, Stevens, Rehnquist, O'Connor, Kennedy

ol·i·gar·chy
Pronunciation: 'ä-l&-"gär-kE, 'O-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -chies
Date: 1542
1 : government by the few
2 : a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control
3 : an organization under oligarchic control

[garbanzo]

Well the written law is the binding Supreme Court decisions that prohibit sectarian displays in government buildings. These are well-published and taught to most law students.

[Jack00]

Christians ARE denied the same access all other groups enjoy and have had to go to court in some municipalities to start churches and hold meetings. In NY state, Christians were banned from meeting in a private HOME. Zoning laws were invoked. In a CA high school, Christian symbols were not allowed to be displayed around Christmas while stars of David and Muslim symbols were encouraged! You need to visit the web sites of Jay Sekulow's American Center for Law and Justice just to see the tip of the iceberg:
http://www.aclj.org/
Dr. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Ministry) also has a good web site on this.

[Jack00]

Just because a politically correct mainstream pastor says he is a Christian doesn't mean he is one...
Jesus Christ foretold this PC type and the spiritual battle that would unfold in the end times.

[Jack00]

I don't actually remember him saying them either. They appear as a quote from 1964 on a calendar I got from the Reagan Ranch, a project of Young America's Foundation.
I love the guy too! And to think in my days of blindness I joined the Nuclear Freeze Movement that tried to stop him from winning re-election.
The Amish out this way used to say 'Ve get too late schmart and too old kvik."

[ClancyJ]

Well, that gives me hope that someday these insane liberals will wize up too.

[Jack00]

A recent poll showed that 77% of Americans think the monument should have stayed in Alabama. It is true that your right may not have been infringed, since you are one of the 19%. But the federal courts got involved in a states rights issue and the states, and the people of the United States, lost again.
Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily, in his subscription hardcopy publoication "Whistleblower," invites Americans to call for the impeachment of several federal judges, several of whom recently said on national TV that the world court could some day make the Constitution irrelevant, and cited foreign court decisions in overruling the Texas sodomy law.
I wholeheartedly agree. (And I don't believe in jailing gays either. It's just that the BIGGER and more dangerous issue is that the states have a right to make bad laws as long as they aren't unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court is not supposed to invervene).

[Happy2BMe]

"These are well-published and taught to most law students."

And please for the sake of clarity provide some type of reference stating the doctrine of separation of church and state is the rule of law origianlly intended in the United States Constitution.

[ex-snook]

Dr. Dobson should realize the bus has already left without him.

[f.Christian]

oligarchs ... ayatollas --- taliban !

These are citizen -- taxpayers property ... not thrones and castles of the privledged - elites --- kremlin usa !

[tame]

You know something, most Americans- more than 75%- actually support Judge Moore. That means that those who so vociferously oppose the Ten Commandments represent, in reality, only a very small minority.

I agree. The problem is the minority is occupies powerful positions.

The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes?

The ignorance (or stupidity) of most the swing voters allows leftists to occupy.

As you say, there is indeed darkness at work here but the situation is far from hopeless.

I hope you're correct.

[tame]

Dr. Dobson should realize the bus has already left without him.

Dr. Dobson is a great man, and if Christians do what their supposed to, then Christians will be driving the bus.

[f.Christian]

It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."


Daniel and the Coming King

Chapter 16

The Gospel In Daniel 9:24

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"It would be tragic if we contented ourselves with an analytical examination of this passage of Scripture. It is not merely a scintillating gem to be admired, but the bread of life to be eaten. It consists of 'the everlasting gospel' in minature."

"That which should concern us all the more than the issues of hermeneutics is the issue of life---our life. Not minutiae of prophetic interpretation, but sin, sorrow, and death constitute our problems. Daniel 9:24 assures us that the world is a ship and not an iceberg, that God is intensely interested in our dilemma, and, best of all, that He has done something to extricate us from the apparent cul-de-sac of existence. In Christ, the Melchizedekan King-Priest, He has brought in everlasting righteousness, freely offered to all who believe."

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest of scientists prior to the modern period, wrote a commentary upon the prohecies of Daniel and Revelations. He desribed Daniel 9:24-27 as "the foudation-stone of the Christian religion" because centuries in advance it gave the time of appearance of the Messiah and His death, as well as a comprehensive description of His saving work in heaven and earth. The prophecy likewise tells what would be the fate of the Jews consequent upon their rejection of the One whose coming they had long anticpated. The destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, foretold in Daniel 9:24-27, was history's testimony that the offerings and services of the sanctuary had met their fulfillment in the advent of the promised Messiah."

Newton, Isaac. Observsations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalpse of St. John. London: J. Darby and T. Browne, 1733 (Isaac Newton)

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"All of this while the book itself says it is sealed up, and never will be understood ... until the End of Days --- which we are living in ... "

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

by Dr.Desmond Ford @ ... GNU (( link )).

Seal Up the Vision

"The expression 'to seal up the vision' (v.24) should be considered. This expression, 'the vision', occurs eleven times in Daniel 8:1 to 10:1, and in all these cases it refers to the vision described in the eighth chapter of Daniel. The reader is advised to read again the entire passage. In pictorial, symbolic form the prophet was shown the unfolding of all future centuries till the second advent of Christ. The famous empires, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, which long oppressed the people of God, are described; but particular emphasis is given to the persecution of the church during the Christian era and also to the supremacy of the couterfeit, apostate religion over most of that period. Christ's mediatorial ministry in heaven is alluded to, but its eclipse from men's mind through a counterfeit system is fortold. The sanctuary mentioned refers both to the church temple indwelt by the Holy Spirit on earth, as well as Israel's typical sanctuary. No doubt Daniel was dazed by this revelation of the apparent triumph of evil. In his lifetime he had witnessed the destruction of Jerusalem's temple, the center of true religion, and the carrying into captivity of the people of God by an idolatrous and desolating nation. Now in vision he is informed that this state of affairs is to continue on a much greater scale throughout most of the earth's history. It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."

"Now in the revelation of 9:24-27 the mourning seer is told that there is a greater Prince of the house of Judah, a greater atonement, a greater sanctuary, and a greater redemption than any ever before experienced by Israel. The long-awaited Messiah, the Prince, a Priest-King, will take away the sin of the world and end earth's dark night. Thus 9:24 and 8:14 point to the same reality---the kingdom of God ignaugurated at the first advent and consummated at the second."


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