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Catholic Priest Charged In Player's Death
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 7:32:09 AM PDT by Wolfie

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A Catholic priest was arrested yesterday on charges he contributed to the death of University of Pittsburgh football player Billy Gaines from a 25-foot fall by furnishing alcohol to the wide receiver and five other underage teammates during a June cookout and party at a Homestead church.


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1 posted on 08/28/2003 7:32:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
A priest giving teenage boys an excess of alcohol. I wonder what what he was after.
2 posted on 08/28/2003 7:40:39 AM PDT by evolved_rage (Davis is a POS!)
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To: evolved_rage
When parents give teenagers alcohol what does that mean they are after?
3 posted on 08/28/2003 7:47:37 AM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: evolved_rage
'All' teenage boys drink, especially colledge kids, why the fuss? Why the cuffs?

I see we're in for more Catholic bashing.

4 posted on 08/28/2003 7:53:38 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Wolfie
I don't think it's Catholic bashing to say that this member of the clergy was clearly leading and encouraging illegal and inappropriate behavior among teenage boys.

Why would he do that? Did he enjoy corrupting youth? Did he enjoy getting boys to break the law? Or was it all done in preparation for some future activity that he had in mind? I imagine answers to these questions will come out at the trial.

5 posted on 08/28/2003 8:18:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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I don't think it's Catholic bashing to say that this member of the clergy was clearly leading and encouraging illegal and inappropriate behavior among teenage boys.

Certainly not when you consider that he has a history of this behavior, according to the article.

In 1986, former Pittsburgh Bishop Anthony Bevilacqua sent Krawczyk for counseling after hearing from parents who said Krawczyk had served liquor to their 18-year-old son and touched their son's leg after the student passed out.

6 posted on 08/28/2003 8:23:32 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: duckln; Jaded
In 1986, former Pittsburgh Bishop Anthony Bevilacqua sent Krawczyk for counseling after hearing from parents who said Krawczyk had served liquor to their 18-year-old son and touched their son's leg after the student passed out.

Oh yeah, exactly equivalent to when a parent shares a beer with a child at a family cookout. Not bashing the faith, bashing the pedos and the bureaucrap bishops who hide them.

7 posted on 08/28/2003 8:26:30 AM PDT by evolved_rage (Davis is a POS!)
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To: evolved_rage
Oh yeah, exactly equivalent to when a parent shares a beer with a child at a family cookout.

Yes, sorta, now I think you got it. But you see that's a different agenda. That was part of the 'marriage/family' bashing agenda. Everyone from Oprah and Barr on down claims to have been 'assaulted' as a child. Now every Dad, Uncle, Grandfather, Coach sic man, is basically a vile animal. Only 'queers are good'.

Now it's time to take down the last bastion. First the priesthood, then the religion, Bishops, Cardinals and finally the Pope. Who's next Mel Gibson? Probably.

8 posted on 08/28/2003 8:57:14 AM PDT by duckln
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To: ClearCase_guy
I don't think it's Catholic bashing to say that this member of the clergy was clearly leading and encouraging illegal and inappropriate behavior among teenage boys.

Sounds like your mind's made up. Clearly leading ? Are you serious? Based on what a reporter and newspaper massage up , in order to sell an agenda?

A few years ago, here the drinking age was 18. Now it's 21. The age of consent, drinking, driving, voting etc varies nation wide. Shows there's questions concerning what is appropiate.

Come hell or hot water, teenagers by and large want to experience the affects of alcohol. They are not 'victims'. They want to be 'adults', who by and large, countrywide, drink up a storm.

In college, a typical professor would be looking at your drawing board, with one arm over your shoulder, and his hand playing with your earlobe. We all thought it was funny and had a lot of laughs about it. Never did have him cuffed, in fact, you'd have one hell of time firing that nice old homosexual then and today. But, if it's a priest, now that's different.

9 posted on 08/28/2003 9:35:46 AM PDT by duckln
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To: evolved_rage
Parents supply alcohol for children that are not theirs. It does not make it okay no matter who does it. If he was accused of assault or even trying to seduce the boys that would be a whole 'nother thing. If he is assaulting them he needs to be charged with that.

That is my point.
10 posted on 08/28/2003 9:42:17 AM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: duckln
Dude I can't figure out where you're coming from. Based on the article posted, I note these things as facts (until someone proves that they are not facts):

The priest made alcoholic drinks for the under-age boys.
There was one authority figure present (the priest).
The under-age drinkers over-indulged and one died as a result.

Based on a comment from another poster, it appears that this priest has a history of plying teenage boys with alcohol and touching them inappropriately.

I'm willing to go on record and say that I don't like the way the guy behaved. Apparently you think the whole thing is just part of a Vast Conspiracy to hurt innocent Catholic Priests. If I were on a jury, I would try to keep an open mind. But I'm not on a jury right now and I say this guy sounds guilty and I think that if the church is smart it will defrock him just for being present at an underage alcohol party.

11 posted on 08/28/2003 9:53:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Wolfie
"When you furnish alcohol to people who are under 21, you have to take responsibility for what occurs."

You betcha.

12 posted on 08/28/2003 10:16:15 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Wolfie
At about 2 a.m., Gaines, Abdul and Simonitis went from the rectory to the church's altar where they used the audio system's microphone to sing and act "in an obviously improper manner, which included the use of inappropriate language," according to an affidavit of probable cause. Buches, in particular, took offense at the action and complained to his teammates as well as to Krawczyk but the priest did nothing, the affidavit said.

See what happens when you (the priest) allow disgusting behavior like this in a church? God was not amused. You're being punished.

13 posted on 08/28/2003 10:19:00 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: ClearCase_guy
until someone proves that they are not facts

Most of what the media spins gets debunked. So now you're saying you have to prove you didn't do it rather than the other way around? Bushes' daughters are said to have engaged in illicid drinking. Fate had it nothing happened, no one got cuffed. The 'kids', college at that, were raising hell and acting stupid. We are not their keepers. Maybe the 'priest' was so drunk he was out of it and they were taking advantage of him by drinking his booze.

Based on a comment from another poster, it appears that this priest has a history of plying teenage boys with alcohol and touching them inappropriately.

So a comment by a 'poster' like you or I, is enough to condemn. Doesn't take you long to jump on the bandwagon. What if he had shook their hand, slapped them on the back, roughed up their hair, hugged them, or winked. Is your mind always in the gutter?

I'm willing to go on record and say that I don't like the way the guy behaved

Or the 'kids'. So do I !

But I'm not on a jury right now and I say this guy sounds guilty

Exactly why, if at all possible, stay out of 'court'. It's a place where much injustice is done by wanabe do gooders.

I think that if the church is smart it will defrock him just for being present at an underage alcohol party.

Maybe, but how would you like losing your job and lively hood because of a stupid unfortunate accident.

14 posted on 08/28/2003 11:55:52 AM PDT by duckln
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