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The Truth About What's Happening In Iraq
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| 8/28/03
| Bob Lonsberry
Posted on 08/28/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: BigWaveBetty
A well armed citizenry and a decentralized government, you know traditional conservativism.
More Todd Beamers
Fewer Ivy Leaguers
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:10:25 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
To: netmilsmom
You seem awfully willing to put someone else's kid in harms way in an effort to abdicate your responsibility to protect your liberties and the liberties of your child.
I think none other than General MacArthur would tell you not to worry:
The powers in charge keep us in a perpetual state of fear keep us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.
- General Douglas MacArthur
"A Soldier Speaks: Public Papers and Speeches of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur," (1965); Nation, August 17, 1957
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:11:50 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
To: JohnGalt
Uh yeah, all those folks in the WTC would have been able to thwart those bastards had they had guns.
John you are a maroon.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:12:32 AM PDT
by
BigWaveBetty
(It was only George Bush who liberated us, without him it wouldn't have happened. ~Nadia Mohammed)
To: BillClintscum
That, quite frankly, is one of the more idiotic posts I have seen for some time on FR. Bush went after Saddam not because of bin Laden, but because of Saddam's 12-year noncompliance with cease-fire agreements, his support of terrorism and the destabilization his regime represented in the Middle East.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:14:20 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
To: BillClintscum; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; Chancellor Palpatine; ...
VARMINT CONG ALERT!!!Ragheadicus Apologetica Hibernatia Trollium subspecies
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:14:40 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
Comment #26 Removed by Moderator
To: BillClintscum
Give us the proof that Bush Is a murderer plain and simple (your tagline) by our troops where tens of thousands of innocents are killed. Baghdad Bob, is that you?
To: BigWaveBetty
I didn't take you for a conservative anyway so your comments merely strength my resolve.
Hint: its the owners of the WTC who were prevented by the federalis from having proper defense tools, be it anti-aircraft missiles or guns.
It was the state that convinced its people to give up a personal responsibility, protection of the self, that infected the culture which caused good Americans to hope it 'was just a hijacking' as they were led like sheeps to the slaughter.
Go on apologizing for the state and believing its a good thing its someone else's kid taking a bullet in Iraq.
Sheep.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:20:21 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
To: BillClintscum
You know, I started to correct your analogy to reflect reality. I think I have a bit of a reputation for speaking my mind and not letting an erroneous point go unchallenged. I can be quite tenacious and verbose in making my case.
In the case of your post above, I found it to be such an ignorant rant that it wasn't deserving of the effort. Instead, I'll let you do the legwork. Do a search for the word "Iraq" on FR and read some articles. You are intellectually blind to the facts.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:23:24 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Christianity, if false, is unimportant and, if true, of infinite importance. - C.S. Lewis)
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: BillClintscum
Oh puleese! Bush made the case that Iraq and Bin laden had a connection and if we didnt invade, Iraq might do something really bad to us. The two were not connected by Bush. Bush's case for taking out Saddam was based on what I have stated, along with Saddam's long history of both using and manufacturing WMDs.
But, since you're so certain that Bush connected Saddam to bin Laden and that alone justified the war, please provide documentation for that viewpoint.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:29:48 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
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To: BillClintscum
I do believe the lobotomy was a sucess, but do you still mess your pants?
To: JohnGalt
If the WTC had anti-aircraft missiles or guns and had been able to actually shoot those two planes down, what would have happened? Hint: People still would have died. Our economy still would have been hurt.
Too bad you weren't on one of the two WTC missiles so you could have convinced all your fellow passengers that what was happening was actually a terrorist attack.
Sheep dip.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:33:40 AM PDT
by
BigWaveBetty
(It was only George Bush who liberated us, without him it wouldn't have happened. ~Nadia Mohammed)
To: shortstop
The truth about what's happening in Iraq is:
American soldiers are getting killed
In a good cause
That is well worth the price
EXCEPT
The American people are not prepared to pay the price
BECAUSE
The people need to be led in war to accept its sacrifices
And war leadership has been in short supply
BECAUSE
Not all politicians-in fact almost none-are gifted war leaders.
Our current deficiency in war leadership has been, up to now, non-critical
BUT
Given the execrable lack of virtue or even common morality among the RATs
The need for exemplary war leadership is about to skyrocket
AND
If President Bush cannot deliver, he is history.
To: JohnGalt
Give it up, John. We have a right to be secure in our own homes and to defend them ourselves, yes. However, when it comes to the defense of the nation, that is one of the limited, legitimate roles for our national government.
President Bush has planted a terrorist lightning rod (or bug lamp, if you like) in Iraq and it's attracting terrorists from across the globe. While the left continues to say that the war in Iraq is distracting from our efforts in the war on terror, the reality is the war in Iraq has completely distracted the terrorists from their war on us.
As the author stated above, it's the role of the military to protect us as a nation. They don't do that in garrison, they do that in combat. Rather than waiting for the terrorists to strike here where we have a free society with a soft underbelly, we've forced them to focus their efforts on the tip of the spear.
It is a strategically brilliant strategy.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:37:52 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Christianity, if false, is unimportant and, if true, of infinite importance. - C.S. Lewis)
To: shortstop
Lonsberry bump for truth!
To: pgyanke
You drove that nail with one incredibly accurate swing of the hammer. (Bugzapper, I love it)
To: JohnGalt
A well-armed citizenry and decentralized government would have stopped 9/11? So we allow people - including terrorists - to bring guns into planes, that's the solution?
To: BlueLancer; general_re; Poohbah; L,TOWM
Cucaracha rockwelli-raimondi.
More than one, as a matter of fact.
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posted on
08/28/2003 7:42:58 AM PDT
by
dighton
(NLC™)
To: pgyanke
"It's a strategically brilliant strategy."
Are you sure it's the strategy? I'm not at all convinced that our military - or Bush - is glad that those terrorists are infiltrating Iraq - it is slowing down the recovery and giving fuel to the naysayers.
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