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The Truth About What's Happening In Iraq
boblonsberry.com ^ | 8/28/03 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/28/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by shortstop

The war in Iraq isn’t being lost in Baghdad. It’s being lost in America.

In Iraq, it’s going quite well. In America, we’re too stupid to realize that.

So let me explain.

These idiots on the news who count each fatality from the announced end of major fighting are doing more to hurt the cause than all the suicide bombers in Baghdad. One uses explosives and the other uses lies.

The kind of lies that are told by diversion and distortion.

The simple fact is that of course we have sustained more casualties since the actual battle stopped. On the battlefield, they were on our turf. In Baghdad, we are on their turf.

We are a conventional military. Lots of tanks and troops and nobody can stand up to us. Rolling over the Iraqi military, we were in our element.

But in the chicken-crap terrorist world of shoot and run, the jihad boys are in their element.

When we were in a position of advantage our casualties were lower than they are when we are in a position of disadvantage.

So, naturally, we continue to take casualties.

Does that mean we’re losing?

Only if you need a blow dryer and a TelePrompTer to do your job.

I would point out that during the conquest of Iraq, we took over a nation, advanced hundreds of miles into enemy territory, toppled a military numbering in the hundreds of thousands, overthrew a government, took control of a good chunk of the world’s oil supply and put vast amounts of our power on the ground in somebody else’s country.

On the other hand, in their guerilla war, the jihad boys have accomplished not a freaking thing.

We still own the nation, we still own the oil, we’re still in charge, they’re still out of power, we still operate freely a long way from home.

They’re like a dog chasing a car. Lots of noise, plenty of bravado, not a damn bit of difference.

So the daily television score of who died when means nothing, except as a needless insult to the families of brave Americans 100 times more noble than the pretty boys on TV.

Here’s another lie: There is no link between Iraq and terrorism.

In fact, the war with Iraq is one of our most important tools in protecting America from terrorists.

Here’s how: Before we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism was American civilians in the United States. Since we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism has been American servicemen in Iraq.

Good.

More than good. Wonderful.

Thousands of these jihad boys, all coked up on their gutter religion, have streamed into Iraq to be martyrs against the infidels.

Good. The more the merrier.

On September 11 they attacked us where we were weak. Now we’ve tricked them into attacking us where we are strong.

The idiots.

Think about it. Their objective was to attack women and children, businesspeople and flight attendants, in our homeland.

So we changed the venue.

We started breaking the furniture in their neighborhood.

Now all the little Osamas are sneaking into Iraq to take on G.I. Joe.

You pick: Do you want them attacking unarmed citizens in America, or trained and equipped soldiers in Iraq?

Personally, I like our odds now a lot better.

Personally, I think it’s worthwhile and successful. In every battle there are casualties, even in a battle like this. That is to be accepted and understood.

Two facts that escape the self-appointed gods of the media.

Many have died and more will do the same. But each will have sacrificed to directly protect the United States of America and its people. There is a direct link between Iraq and terrorism against America.

The link: As long as we tie the savages up in Iraq, they won’t be coming after our families back home.

Score that a win.

And anybody who says different doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; lonsberry
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To: soccer8
Yeah, Bob can be pretty much of a jerk, but I agree with many of his philosophies.
161 posted on 08/29/2003 7:46:14 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: soccer8
Hey, will you be at the star party tomorrow night?
162 posted on 08/29/2003 7:47:05 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: ArrogantBustard
It is not my fault you were asleep before 9/11. We referred to you as a sheep then and a sheep now.

What is the size of your gubmint check?

163 posted on 08/30/2003 7:55:09 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
We referred

You and your tapeworm?

Answer the question.

Or bugger off.

I don't really care which.

164 posted on 08/30/2003 3:38:01 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
What law?

Criminal incompetence that contributed to the death of 3000 Americans. If the gubmint can but a bar owner in jail for serving a patron a couple of drinks who happens to leave in and get into an accident, surely we can put some of the hacks in prison no?

I'd settle for public disgrace and pension stripping, but that's cause I am a softie.

Now, do you collect a gubmint check?
165 posted on 08/31/2003 7:54:59 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
You still haven't answered "the question":

BTW, you didn't address the content of my post, which supports the author's thesis. Where would you rather fight? On you own turf, on on the enemy's?

166 posted on 09/02/2003 7:05:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
If citing the national anthem is considered deep thinking with your tribe, I suggest you need to step back and take a vacation. Otherwise, refresh my memory to the question.

Where would I rather fight? What a ridiculous question. Since I am not a coward and love my freedom, if someone means me or my family harm, I would not send a 19-year old girl in my place; I would be happy to face them where ever 'they' so choose.

Though I might be a little upset if the people I hired to keep the barbarians out, let them in the front door.

What do you think MacArthur was talking about here?

The powers in charge keep us in a perpetual state of fear keep us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.

- General Douglas MacArthur

"A Soldier Speaks: Public Papers and Speeches of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur," (1965); Nation, August 17, 1957

Now, do you collect a gubmint check, in the spirit of full disclosure of course?

167 posted on 09/02/2003 7:15:21 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
Nonresponsive.
168 posted on 09/02/2003 7:23:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
Funny how the language works.

To a conservative, they would clearly see that my response indicates that I don't believe that a battle half-a-world away has anything to do with national security but that I do believe, the ability to defend oneself has everything to do with a proper national security policy in a land that respects and believes in liberty.

You phrase the question as a statist would; where would I rather fight?

That assumes that I would behave like a coward that ask someone to fight proxy for me, which is, I guess, what you have done.

The arrival of ardent statists like yourself to this site has contributed greatly to misunderstanding between conservative patriots and simple nationalists who apologize for the state and favor a gutless foreign policy.

169 posted on 09/02/2003 7:30:38 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
I see. You would surrender the initiative to your opponent, allowing him to force you to fight in a manner and at a time and place of his choosing.

Fortunately, you are not in charge of defending these United States.

Your practice of name-calling simply cements my opinion of your intellect.

Good Day, sir.

170 posted on 09/02/2003 7:38:54 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
Initiative?

The enemy is already within the borders while you support sending 19 year old girls to the frontline in Iraq to serve as targets for terrorists.

That is a cowardly policy, the policy adovocated by the author of this thread and supported by you, using of all things, the national anthem.

Its too bad we can't the ship the lot of the keyboard hakws over to Iraq to serve as targets for the terrorists--(which would be in your opinion, a good policy?), but its a damn shame that the keyboard hakws can gutlessly send tennage girls in their place.
171 posted on 09/02/2003 7:54:37 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: shortstop
all coked up on their gutter religion,

You lost me here. Our soldiers are fighting (and unfortunately dying) to build a stable, free, and democratic Iraq. Our government is pledging over $20 billion of our taxes to further the effort, because in the long run it will lead to a safer United States.

Suggesting that they are sacraficing their lives to assist members of a "gutter religion" strikes me as about as offensive as the cheering everytime an American dies that we see from the left.

173 posted on 11/03/2003 12:47:08 PM PST by GO65
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