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To: xzins
Criminal or gross negligence maybe. But,simple error? Nah.

Agreed, but this one went past simple pilot error.

3 posted on 08/28/2003 5:17:45 AM PDT by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: Aeronaut
. . . this one went past simple pilot error.

How so? If I understood correctly the plane brushed treetops as it approached the runway during a storm. Sounds like an error any competent pilot could make, given the circumstances.

7 posted on 08/28/2003 5:33:27 AM PDT by toddst
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To: Aeronaut
The report says: power and airspeed and hints at new pilot (whatever that might mean in the commercial aviation world.)

Criminal or gross negligence on the part of the company?

The company didn't want to fight it. That says something.

13 posted on 08/28/2003 5:49:06 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Aeronaut
The "pilot error" was caused by an incredible resistance to anyone telling any politician that they cannot do something which has been requested. The Wellstones and their handlers will not accept that a pilot has reached a "go-no-go" decision based on the weather and platform capabilities. I've seen it a hundred times and have been an unwilling participant on a few. Fortunately I was lucky.

Had the pilot refused to fly Wellstone due to the weather, that would be the end of that pilot's job. Unfortunately(or fortunately) that responsibility must be taken and comes with the turf.

If you need another example, remember Heinz making Sun Oil use their helicopter to inspect the landing gear underneath the light twin Heinz was flying in? The flaming debris of both aircraft rained down on a gradeschool and in the most heavily populated area in Pennsylvania. Again an act caused by the arrogance of political power and it's unwillingness to accept that there are some constants which cannot be resolved by barking at the help.

22 posted on 08/28/2003 7:16:22 AM PDT by blackdog ("Take the time to taste every sandwich" -Warren Zevon, 2002)
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