Movers Haul Away Ten Commandments in Montgomery

FOXNews.com ^ | Wednesday, August 27, 2003

[sweetliberty]

"no one's bibles are being taken away from them"

Unless, of course, you happen to be a Christian teacher (or student) or office worker who, in this free country of ours (Remember that?), always carries a Bible to read at available opportunities, much as others might carry the latest Stephen King novel or the latest "how-to-be-a-nauseating-liberal" book, but heaven forbid they should actually be caught reading it where someone might actually (*GASP* - horrors) see them. Why, that is ever so much worse than allowing kids at the public library to access porn on the internet.

[TonyM]

WOW. I just went to the FOX news channel web site and saw right above the article about the 10 Commandments being removed that the DOW dropped -6.66 points. That’s right...666. That’s too weird to be a coincidence.

[sweetliberty]

"I do not believe they exist"

I might not believe in gravity, but my not believing in it has absolutely no effect on whether or not it has an impact on me if I jump off a building. There are spiritual laws just as there are physical ones and your NOT believing that they exist has no effect on their impact on your life.

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corin. 2:14)

[RoughDobermann]

Yes. You're full of it. Comprende?

Yes, I think I understand. You're a juvenile.

[keats5]

"You believe that is 'GOOD NEWS" and you're entitled to that belief. There are people who do not, and that makes it opinion rather than fact."

Now, that's some twisted logic.
Facts are facts, even if some disbelieve the facts.
If I don't believe a tree is a tree, it's still a tree. .My disbelief doesn't turn the tree into an opinion.

[RoughDobermann]

Unless, of course, you happen to be a Christian teacher (or student) or office worker who, in this free country of ours (Remember that?), always carries a Bible to read at available opportunities, much as others might carry the latest Stephen King novel or the latest "how-to-be-a-nauseating-liberal" book, but heaven forbid they should actually be caught reading it where someone might actually (*GASP* - horrors) see them.

Please do try to control yourself. In the rare instances when this actually happens (when someone is offended by a person reading their Bible in public), the people responsible for such censorship are obviously idiots.

[sweetliberty]

" the people responsible for such censorship are obviously idiots"

I agree with that...but they are dangerous idiots. They are haters of liberty, haters of God and lovers of the state. While I may be very caught up in this particular issue at the moment, I do see beyond what is going on right now and what I see is that unless we turn back the encroachments on our freedoms, which is seeming more unlikely every day, we are not too very far from the day that we will wake up and realize that we no longer have any.

[RoughDobermann]

The Founders' Christianity was the very core of their being. I'm not even going to bother posting the countless references to prove that. Go buy a biography of Washington.

"George Washington, the first president of the United States, never declared himself a Christian according to contemporary reports or in any of his voluminous correspondence. Washington Championed the cause of freedom from religious intolerance and compulsion. When John Murray (a universalist who denied the existence of hell) was invited to become an army chaplain, the other chaplains petitioned Washington for his dismissal. Instead, Washington gave him the appointment. On his deathbed, Washinton uttered no words of a religious nature and did not call for a clergyman to be in attendance." From: George Washington and Religion by Paul F. Boller Jr., pp. 16, 87, 88, 108, 113, 121, 127 (1963, Southern Methodist University Press, Dallas, TX)

I don't blame you for not wanting to post any references...

[keats5]

You're going to a dentist in your Godless state? Think what you're doing, MineralMan. Sheesh!

[RoughDobermann]

Don't get me wrong; I think that removing the monument of the Ten Commandments from the AL courthouse rotunda was the correct thing to do.

[philetus]

"Federal law is invariably carried to its most ludicrous extreme." --Diane Alden

[philetus]

"Excessive laws are worse than useless. Many new laws confer legitimacy on what common sense would recognize as crimes." --Joseph Sobran

[philetus]

"Today I stand before you not because I've done anything wrong. I stand before you because I've kept my oath." --Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore

[jwalsh07]

Your post 488 is garbage. Washington was a Christian who prayed to a divine God. Not a deist, not an agnostic, not an atheist, a Christian.

[JoeSchem]

"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity,"

How does that work? How is it a tremendous victory? What did they win? You'd think people were screaming in agony from radioactive death rays emanating from the monument, and now they've thrown off the yoke of religious oppression and they're in ecstacy.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...George Washington, the first president of the United States, never declared himself a Christian...

Hah! Yep, here's the old atheist himself, just before Valley Forge:

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..George Washington, the first president of the United States, never declared himself a Christian...

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that: The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.

Which are you, Roughie? Worse than an infidel, or just plain wicked?

[Blood of Tyrants]

I have. The commandments from God trump the Amendments to the Constitution. BTW, the second commandment says "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

Like I said, my God is living and not made of cold dead stone. Satan thinks he won but God let the monument be taken after He to let it happen.

Don't think that God lost this battle because a stone was moved. Millions of people who had no idea what the ten commandments were went to the Holy Bible and read it. I have heard first hand accounts how the lost were saved when they went to Montgomery, Alabama just tio see what the fuss was all about.

This war is a spiritual war and we don't see the things that are going on in the spiritual realm.

[PleaseNoMore]

President James Madison (1751-1836)

4th President of the United States and Chief Architect of the Constitution

"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

See, one can take every statement the forefathers ever made out of context to support their arguments. I question the context of the comments that you posted.

[sport]

O.K.