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Movers Haul Away Ten Commandments in Montgomery
FOXNews.com ^ | Wednesday, August 27, 2003

Posted on 08/27/2003 8:59:09 AM PDT by NWO Slave

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — A chorus of demonstrators joined an irate man in screaming "Put it back!" Wednesday morning after a monument of the Ten Commandments was wheeled away from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building.

"Get your hands off our God, God haters!" yelled the wildly gesturing, red-faced man who initiated the chanting.

Workers used a dolly to move the 5,280-pound granite marker from the rotunda to another, undisclosed place in the courthouse building.

Meanwhile, a Wednesday afternoon hearing to consider a lawsuit to keep the monument in the rotunda was canceled.

The lawsuit, filed Monday in federal court in Mobile on behalf of a Christian radio talk show host and a pastor, says forced removal of the monument would violate the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion.

Christian Defense Coalition Director Patrick Mahoney told the crowd of demonstrators that he wasn't told where the monument had been taken.

Because of its size and weight, the marker was presumably moved to another location on the ground floor of the building.

Mahoney said the monument would not be covered, and that he would be allowed inside to see it once it was moved. Mahoney said he was informed of the plans by building manager Graham George.

Mahoney didn't know whether the monument's new location would be accessible to the public.

The federal court had said the monument could be in a private place in the building but not in the highly visible spot in the rotunda directly across from the building's entrance.

Protest organizers asked the crowd outside not to rush the building or do anything else except pray. Some people seemed to be listening, with dozens kneeling, bowing or lying face-down in prayer in front of the judicial building and on the steps before and after the monument's removal.

The marker was wheeled away in a matter of minutes.

A federal judge in Montgomery ruled last year that the monument, which Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore (search) installed two years ago, violates the Constitution's ban on government promotion of religion and ordered its removal by Aug. 20. The U.S. Supreme Court last week declined to hear Moore's appeal.

But Moore refused to comply. Eight associate justices voted Aug. 21 to remove the monument, and Moore was suspended the next day.

Attorney General Bill Pryor, defending the associate justices, filed a motion Tuesday afternoon to dismiss the latest lawsuit, saying the Mobile court lacks jurisdiction and the complaint lacks merit.

About 150 monument supporters marched on Pryor's office Tuesday, demanding he resign for supporting the associate justices' decision. Seven representatives were allowed inside to meet with Pryor's chief deputy for about 20 minutes. The rest remained outside, chanting, "Resign now! Resign now!"

Gatherings of pro-monument demonstrators outside the judicial building have grown each day in the past week to at times number in the hundreds.

People seeking removal of the monument from its public site had said they were grateful that it was finally being moved, a week after the deadline set by a federal judge.

"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity," the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said before the monument was rolled out of the rotunda. "Perhaps Roy Moore will soon leave the bench and move into the pulpit, which he seems better suited for."

Lynne's organization was among groups suing to remove Moore's monument, which he installed without telling the other eight Supreme Court justices.

Demonstrators promised to keep up their protests of the removal.

"If it takes 75 years to reclaim this land for righteousness, God find us and our children and our children's children ready," said the Rev. Rob Schenck, president of the national clergy council.

Affirmative Action Judge Opposing Judge Roy Moore


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: noothergods; purge; shallyouhave; tencommandments
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To: keats5
You do know what happened in Canada, don't you? Spoken Biblical anti-homosexual passages have been deemed "hate speech" up north.

You do know that we're discussing the United States of America, and not Canada, don't you? I'll be the first to oppose any such idiocy here.

101 posted on 08/27/2003 10:27:09 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: curlewbird
We don't because they keep raising taxes, therfore, creating more poor, therefore, raising taxes to pay for the poor, etc...etc...etc.... Keeps them in business!!

How cruel of you, exposing fallacies central to the beliefs of some.

102 posted on 08/27/2003 10:27:49 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: MineralMan
Tell that to that girl a couple years back who had her Bible thrown in the trash by her public school teacher.
103 posted on 08/27/2003 10:27:52 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Get your hands off our God, God haters!" yelled the wildly gesturing, red-faced man who initiated the chanting.

My God isn't a piece of stone with words on it

Amen.

104 posted on 08/27/2003 10:28:06 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: NWO Slave
"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity," the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said...

ALL who applaud this decision allied themselves with the creepy likes of Barry Lynn, the ACLU, Socialists, and all other traditional enemies of America. Congratulations on your defection to the dark side...

ITMT, this incident only serves as a THE metaphor for the current leftist movement to hijack and eradicate America's traditional and historical inspiration to priciple and basis of law -- it's Judeo-Christian heritage.

105 posted on 08/27/2003 10:28:43 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: rwfromkansas
Wait a second. Many of these people on FR are indeed articulate, polite and intelligent, (if not sadly misled.)

God has blessed them with reasoning and intellect and they have clever powers of deduction. No need to make enemies or insult. I say, reason, argue, debate.

All the things a Deist hold can be necessarily argued and defended and those which the Atheist hold can easily be dismantled.

106 posted on 08/27/2003 10:28:57 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam Had No Taepodong-II nuke ICBMs capable of hitting the World's Largest & 2nd Largest Economies)
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To: RoughDobermann
Why should I limit the practice of my religion to my "home or church"? Must we Christians really stay behind closed doors to practice Christianity? If I leave my house, must I then become an Atheist, since that's the only religion permitted in public in America now?

According to this new "keep religion to home and church standard" I hear tossed about lately, I can't whisle a hymn at work, read a Bible on a park bench, wear a cross to the grocery store, or put a dollar in a Salvvation Army kettle.

I'm not sure you really mean what your words say. Please be careful. You really can't mean to set a standard disallowing all non-Athiestic religions except "at home or church".
107 posted on 08/27/2003 10:29:22 AM PDT by keats5
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To: MineralMan
UR# 80........expos'e.........d

"Atheism." There is no such religion. Atheists do not worship anything. No gods. No churches. No prayers. No principles that apply to all who claim to be atheists.

EXDOUS 20:1-3.....context 'is' everything!!

Proverbs 3:33

Proverbs 17:21

Proverbs 29:27

(Romans 10:17)

108 posted on 08/27/2003 10:29:23 AM PDT by maestro
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To: rwfromkansas
"Tell that to that girl a couple years back who had her Bible thrown in the trash by her public school teacher."

That teacher was wrong to do such a thing, obviously. The SCOTUS has affirmed the right of students to take Bibles to school, to pray in the schoolyard, etc. I'm sure that teacher now knows not to do such a stupid thing, if he/she still has a job.
109 posted on 08/27/2003 10:29:24 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: RoughDobermann
Some teachers have taken Bibles from students and put them in the wastebasket.
110 posted on 08/27/2003 10:30:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: MineralMan
Atheism is not a religion. There are no beliefs involved in being an atheist. None. It is simply a disbelief in deities and supernatural entities. Nothing more.

Incorrect. Furthermore, atheism is intellectually dishonest by definition, as admitted by the noted atheist Isaac Azimov. Atheism makes a judgement about a domain which it readily admits is not open to investigation. In effect, atheism claims to "prove" a negative.

111 posted on 08/27/2003 10:30:15 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: arly
we need to find out what company removed it, this is an outrage.

That's right. When you need your rock moved, make sure you don't call those traitors!

112 posted on 08/27/2003 10:30:33 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Thank you, McClintock supporters, for all your nasty and insulting emails.)
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To: NWO Slave
"Get your hands off our God, God haters!" yelled the wildly gesturing, red-faced man who initiated the chanting."

Huh? Is this man saying the monument is his God? Weird.

113 posted on 08/27/2003 10:31:56 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MineralMan
You worship your intellect and reasoning capacity.

You make yourself a god.
114 posted on 08/27/2003 10:32:19 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: MineralMan
... Atheists do not worship anything. ...

Just themselves.

115 posted on 08/27/2003 10:32:33 AM PDT by nfldgirl (http://www.godsark.org/index.html)
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To: F16Fighter
"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity," the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said..."

Actually, Barry Lynn is executive director of Satanists for the Abolition of All Things Christian.

116 posted on 08/27/2003 10:33:19 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: keats5
I'm not sure you really mean what your words say. Please be careful. You really can't mean to set a standard disallowing all non-Athiestic religions except "at home or church".

Allow me to expnad and elaborate: no, of course not. All of these (I can't whisle a hymn at work, read a Bible on a park bench, wear a cross to the grocery store, or put a dollar in a Salvvation Army kettle.) are absolutely fine with me. Wearing a cross or Star of David in church? Fine.

117 posted on 08/27/2003 10:33:57 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Some teachers have taken Bibles from students and put them in the wastebasket

Examples please?

118 posted on 08/27/2003 10:34:48 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: AndrewC
"How cruel of you, exposing fallacies central to the beliefs of some."


Geez! Did I let the cat out of the bag? You don't think they will become suicidal over this realization do you? I would feel REALLY badly about that!
119 posted on 08/27/2003 10:35:42 AM PDT by curlewbird
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To: RoughDobermann
"Wearing a cross or Star of David in church?"

These can be worn anywhere a person wishes to wear them.

120 posted on 08/27/2003 10:35:46 AM PDT by MEGoody
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