Kyl's off-road patrol plan meets general resistance

www.tucsoncitizen.com ^ | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 | LUKE TURF

[uglybiker]

U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service law enforcement officer Rob Peloquin exams one of 20 or 25 abandoned vehicles in the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge.

An Arizona senator wants the U.S. Border Patrol to have more off-road access when combatting illegal smuggling operations that rip through pristine deserts along the border.

[uglybiker]

Fire up them thar ping lists!

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[okie01]

One look at that map makes all the NPS, USF&W and enviro-wacko bitching about the Border Patrol look even more absurd than usual.

"Yeah, all those illegals are making trails, junking cars and leaving trash (not to mention open latrines and dead bodies) all over our pristine little piece of the desert...but we don't want those nasty Border Patrolmen in here chasing 'em and screwing up the environment!"

[uglybiker]

(cue whiny voice)Oh, but these poor, simple people can't hurt the environment! They're just trying to find a better life!

(NOTE: A 'better life' for a Mexican in the eyes of the elitists' is for them to do their yardwork and clean their toilets.)

[Russell Scott]

But the Border Patrol already has a bad reputation with many environmental groups in the area and at least one of them is raging about Kyl's proposal.

I wonder how many enviromental groups are nothing but fronts to protect the illegal drug market. First pot farms in our forest, and now drug smugglers from Mexico. Kind of makes you wonder.

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[Rebelbase]

Imagine how cost effective rotating a couple of dozen Army/Marine squads, as part of their training, through the Federal land would be in stopping the influx of illegals.

By rotating the troops and their commanders, there would be less chance of bribery.

[grania]

I wonder how many enviromental groups are nothing but fronts to protect the illegal drug market. First pot farms in our forest, and now drug smugglers from Mexico. Kind of makes you wonder.

I'm pro-environment and disgusted with the groups that keep whining for more money to save the fuzzy toed speckeled wombats or whatever. They just don't make any sense at all on many issues.

There is a logical connection just waiting for someone with common sense to exploit. The invasion is bad for the environment. The criminals who are here illegally wreck the environment crossing these non-developed areas. They cause the need for more housing, which is infringing on pristine areas. They are moving to a country where they will use more resources than they would in their homelands. They sponge up government money that could be spent preserving and enhancing the environment.

So, why don't those who love the environment and those who want to stop the invasion get together and realize it would be a winning combination? I mean, here's Kyl wanting to do something positive, and the environmentalists diss him?

If they really cared about the environment, they'd know that the DMZ in Korea has become a major environmental treasure. That land, left alone, has allowed animal and plant life to flourish. A "DMZ" along our borders would be good for both groups. It would seriously curtail the illegal entry into this country. It would create an environmental treasure.

Sometimes I think it's all part of a rigged game and the "leaders" of neither group want to win.

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Our friend Jackelope Breeder routinely patrolled on the third rate road that ran along the international border between the Coronado National Memorial and the San Pedro River. It was the best way to stop the illegals.

[junta]

Mostly they are money making rackets for the proprietors. If I remember right one of the Sierra Club muckety mucks lived in Northern CA in a house that used more redwood lumber than an entire subdivison, but he was special I guess.

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[taxed2death]

...so much stupidity in this article, where to begin...

"A Tuscon based conservation agency hates the idea".

Stupid, doing something, in this case is batter than doing nothing. Many wild life refugee areas are already completely trashed because of illegals.

Organ Pipe Cactus National monument Chief Ranger Fred Patton says "we would be jeopardizing the very character that led to the wilderness designation"

Pure stupidity,.... been to that park lately?, there's more trash, ripped up cacti, illegal trails, drug deals are done completely out in the open in many of the parking / picnic areas. It can no longer, in any stretch of the imagination, be declared as a wilderness area, it's already a drug dealer / mule infested dump.

Regarding the border patrol.. "we don't have an offroad prusuit policy, per se"

UMmmmm, isn't like 95% of the southern border along the US / Mexican area "off-road" (non-paved)?

Regarding Daniel Pattersons remarks.." Giving the border patrol free license to drive in wilderness areas is like giving a group ofconvicted child molesters a license to run a day care center".

Now I've thought long and har about this one. I can't seem to find any comparison between Border Patrol agents, who regularly risk their lives and are extremely underpaid, understaffed and over worked, and child molesters. Perhaps some Freepers out there can help me out on this one. Am I missing something?

Jen Allen, director of the Tuscon based border watchdog group, Border Action Network..."BP agents are already degrading the enviroment in areas that aren't protected"

More stupidity, do illegals stick to areas which aren't protected? No. We need to give the BP agents access to what ever areas they need to be in, in order to stem the rising tide of illegals.


Jeez, talk about an article with a lotta holes in it....

[MissAmericanPie]

"It could no longer fit the status of a national wildlife refuge if the manager didn't have control over the land that they're responsible for managing,"

What control? The manager is not pretending to have a smidgen of control over it as it is, is he?

[DLfromthedesert]

Thanks for the hypocrite-enviro-Socialist ping.

[rightofrush]

wonder how many enviromental groups are nothing but fronts to protect the illegal drug market. First pot farms in our forest, and now drug smugglers from Mexico. Kind of makes you wonder.

But not for long.

[uglybiker]

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