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Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002

The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position. Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc.

They really don't have a clue. Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right. There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds. Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail. But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.

This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.

When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default. Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.

If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.

To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails. Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has.

One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign. Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate. If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.

Wellstone has just one strategy. That is to cost the Republican candidate his base. He knows the Republican candidate has enough center to defeat him. But if the Republican base can be made to sit on its hands or protest vote then Wellstone can prevail.

In politics it is called using wedge issues. The right has a very large number of wedgeable members. The left really enjoys driving the wedge to make them do things counter productive to their goals.

When you talk to people who fall for negative campaigning, they always tell you that when the right guy comes along to sell the right views, his side will prevail.

You keep saying to yourself that people can't be that dumb.... but experience proves that they are.

you should bump a person if/when you talk about him on a thread

CT is right, dangit. We represent the VRWC, du represents the socialist "progressives." Neither side will ever win a majority if we doggedly stick to our far from center candidate.

If McClintock stays in the race, he'll split the R vote and the D will win. (UNLESS Arnold screws up -- It's probably his race to lose.)

Not until we homeschool, not until we bail out of liberal churches, not until we arm our younger voters with ammunition to fight off collectivism and moral relativism, will we ever be able to turn this country around. Our young people are being brainwashed in public institutions.

Sadly, today I agree with CT. But I hope I can live long enough to see that become passe!

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party

And if you keep ignoring your base, you'll be in the minority party as well. Heads up, DC!

Dumb as in electing Clinton....twice and anyone voting for Hillary Clinton. I don't remember the last time I wasn't guilted into voting for the exceptable conservative (with some liberal ideas) candidate. But I don't want to be the reason a demo wins an election. Wish it were different, but I don't see it changing anytime soon.

"To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. "

THANKS JIM FOR BEING UP FRONT.

Buffalo Head - your thought is not worth a nickel. Republican agenda prevails??? Incredible. RINO means Republicans who vote as Democrats. It is the DEMOCRAT agenda that prevails. The Democrats get strong because they are solid. Know any pro-life Democrats running?