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Sacred sites bill could create a monster
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| August 26, 2003
Posted on 08/26/2003 6:28:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Establisment of religion and deprivation of property rights go hand in hand in this sneak attack on private property. Gray Davis should be impeached. John Burton,and Denise Ducheny should be impeached as well.
To: hedgetrimmer
It would make it a crime for anybody engaged in identifying a sacred site and gauging its importance to divulge any information about it to the public.
Could someone please tell me one good reason for this clause? Could someone tell me "thier" reason for it?
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posted on
08/26/2003 6:34:14 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: Husker24
Because if you knew someone was going to steal your property, you'd probably try to defend it. This way, the steal it right out from under your nose, and you'll never know about it til them come to evict you.
To: hedgetrimmer
Those allowed to hold office by their very nature, their essence if you please, are bound to foul up. Those presently in charge will call forth their own opposition.They always have. There is nothing that can be done in the short term except ride out the results of their ineptitude.
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posted on
08/26/2003 6:38:50 PM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(Further, the statement assumed)
To: california; Rabid Republican; starsandstrips; summer; Jim Robinson; Salvation; jam137; ...
Please ping your property rights, constitutional rights lists.
To: hedgetrimmer
I certainly hope this gets defeated!
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posted on
08/26/2003 6:41:28 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
There's no distance limit between a project and a sacred site, so the Native American Heritage Commission could have power over projects that are quite removed from the sacred site itself
So, by California law, indians could force the demolition of the White House-- because they will be granted power over projects quite removed from the sacred site.
To: hedgetrimmer; JustAmy; mtngrl@vrwc; gracie1; Mama_Bear; jkphoto; notpoliticallycorewrecked; ...
Here's another attack on our property rights by Davis and Co.
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posted on
08/26/2003 6:52:15 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
To: hedgetrimmer; AAABEST
AAABEST, FYI.
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posted on
08/26/2003 6:57:57 PM PDT
by
summer
To: farmfriend; Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
To: hedgetrimmer
It works like this: If the property thats is to be developed is a sacred sight, the injuns can stop the development. But since they ain't dummies, the realize that they can negotiate with the developer.
If the developer is willing to compensate them, they will allow him to proceed. Of course much wampum will change hands and the injuns will in turn donate a portion to the democrats.
To: hedgetrimmer
This will be really fun. My company deals with this type of project in California every day. We already figured that the costs to our clients for a routine project will double.
For a non-routine project?? Well, who knows? Can you say lawsuits all over the state? Tied up in court for years? We'll see what happens.
To: Ben Ficklin
You got it exactly right. This is another Davis money grab. He figures that this will turn out more Indian votes for him to stay in office, and the Indians will give even more millions to the Dems. Absolutely disgraceful!
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posted on
08/26/2003 7:23:48 PM PDT
by
DeweyCA
To: Ben Ficklin
Something like that, not sacred sites but traditional residential lands, were exchanged for the right to build the Transalaska oil pipeline. ANCSA
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posted on
08/26/2003 7:28:12 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: DeweyCA
This is another Davis money grabThe source of the problem is not Davis. It is Burton.
The quicker the legislature is identified as a major player in California's financial and personal rights fiasco the quicker the problem will be solved.
To: hedgetrimmer
I would love to hear the debate on this proposal.
What possible justification can there be other than we will do it because we can; and it can **** up millions of people ha ha.
Personally, my feeling is that had indians never existed, the quality of my life would not deteriorate one iota.
On the other hand, their self-defined importance, and the idiots who support them, have caused misery and problems all over the place.
But for tiny twits, swelling with justified feelings of unimportance, holding millions hostage is "satisfying"; and now possible.
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posted on
08/26/2003 7:31:42 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: hedgetrimmer
The people of California are unaware of the nightmare that is about to happen to them. People will die because of this legislation, mark my word.
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posted on
08/26/2003 7:31:53 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Its possible taht power plants, water treatment plants, dams, reservoirs and highways could be stopped or made unbearably costly by this legislation.
To: hedgetrimmer
I'm waiting for the ACLU lawsuit.... Doesn't this violate that wall between Church and State?
I guess that doesn't apply to the NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH...
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posted on
08/26/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT
by
adam_az
To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for the ping Jim. I agree that this is quite problematic.
It's just amazing for me to watch what this Governor and his packed legislature are willing to ram down California citizen's throats to please special interests. Cruz is getting quite a bit of money from the Indian Casinos from what I've heard. Now this.
There are times when it almost seems wrong to elect our leaders. When they can buy votes, it is terrible. I guess the only thing worse would be not to be able to vote for them.
Can't win for losin!
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