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"Open Range": Finally, Guns That Sound Like Guns, Most Excellent
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Posted on 08/25/2003 4:26:26 PM PDT by The Wizard

After the disasterous war sounds in "Pearl Harbor", (partly responsible for the flop of the film) someone at Touchstone must have actually gone out and fired a real gun.....If those scenes had been as loud as they really were, every little boy in America would hgave gone back and back.....maybe some of us big boys too.....(I expected to be blown out of the theater, instead you have 50 caliber machine guns that sound like they have silencers)

The sounds in the gun fight is awesome and very welcome in this era of PC.....those double barrels can really talk...

The film even has a corrected scene from "High Noon", but you'll have to go see it to find out what it is.....

"Shane" would be proud....those guns sound like they should sound......

Let's hope someone on this film calls the folks on Touchstone's next big film, "The Alamo"......then we'll only have to worry about them portraying the Heroes correctly.....


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This is a complete film, not an MTV idiot movie: if you need car chases and 1 second clip shots, go see matrix
1 posted on 08/25/2003 4:26:27 PM PDT by The Wizard
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To: The Wizard
They're going to remake the Alamo? I smell a PC disaster.
2 posted on 08/25/2003 4:30:31 PM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words written will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: Arkie2; The Wizard
They're going to remake the Alamo? I smell a PC disaster.

I saw Open Range over the weekend. It's a good flick. An old fashioned western that hits the spot.

But the BEST part was that I saw the first trailer for The Alamo. When it opens, I am there!

Hopefully, it won't be ruined by PC poison. I have been reading about the movie for about a year now, and I am optimistic it will be historically accurate. We shall see.

3 posted on 08/25/2003 4:39:19 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: San Jacinto
Well, I've been hesitant to see the movie, but since a FreePer recommends it, that tips the scale. I'll go see it in a couple of days.
4 posted on 08/25/2003 5:09:50 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: The Wizard
Open Range is the best movie I have seen in a long time. The dialog wasn't pretty, the gun fight was ugly and loud, more like reality than any other movie I have seen. It will be added to my collection as soon as it comes out on video.
5 posted on 08/25/2003 5:13:41 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: San Jacinto
Don't bet on it, Disney is paying for this movie, so the Mexicans are the good guys, Davey Crockett played by Bill Bob Thornton is not going to be shown in a positive light. I'm sure all the Texicans will be slave owing, mexican kicking, wife beating, alcoholics. The real hero of the movie will probable be character nobody ever heard of that's really a queer in love with Jim Bowie or Travis.

I don't trust anything from Disney.

6 posted on 08/25/2003 5:22:39 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Faster horses, older whiskey, younger women, and more money.)
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To: Enterprise
Well, I've been hesitant to see the movie, but since a FreePer recommends it, that tips the scale. I'll go see it in a couple of days.

Here's a FReeper that just loved the film. Don't hesitate.

7 posted on 08/25/2003 5:26:35 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (God Bless the arsenal of liberty.)
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To: The Wizard
After the disasterous war sounds in "Pearl Harbor"...

Funny, but Small Arms Review Magazine had an extensive story a few years back about how all the authentic firearms were used and recorded to ensure that the sounds of the gunfire were acoustically accurate.
8 posted on 08/25/2003 6:06:10 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: *bang_list
Bang
9 posted on 08/25/2003 6:06:31 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
Sure you weren't thinking of "Saving Pvt. Ryan"?
10 posted on 08/25/2003 6:08:35 PM PDT by tet68
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To: The Wizard
It might be interesting to see.

I'm getting to the point where I think I can tell what caliber someone is shooting.

So I guess I have a question. What guns did they use in the movie? The trailer only had some single action Colt Model "P"'s, a shotgun and I think, a 1873 Winchester which would be 44-40.

11 posted on 08/25/2003 6:15:35 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: The Wizard

Hello my name is HSU

12 posted on 08/25/2003 6:21:06 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Shooter 2.5
There were some Winchester 1873's, several Colt 1873's, one Remington single action (carried by Boss), and several double barrel (exterior hammer) shotguns. All were cartridge guns. Nothing really fancy.

They were probably all supposed to be 44-40 (except the shotguns, of course) because I don't expect that the trail riders would have kept a bunch of different cartridges around for each gun. It was in 1882, so the 1873's would be the correct time period, although, they could have been 38-40's. They would have been fairly new, though, instead of nearly 10 years old (that's called a decade).

I shoot both the 44-40 and 38-40 in black powder.
13 posted on 08/25/2003 6:24:38 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Licensed-To-Carry
Disney got it right the first time around (back in 1954 on the "Disneyland" TV show). I'm sure they won't diverge too greatly from that classic (though historically inaccurate) image of David Crockett swinging his rifle butt at the attacking soldiers. Americans are in no mood to see history rewritten.
14 posted on 08/25/2003 6:27:51 PM PDT by UncleDick
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To: jim_trent
Thanks. I hope the studios start to load their own blank cartridges intstead of the standard blanks they used to. I think they were called 4-in-one's because they could be used in anything.
15 posted on 08/25/2003 6:35:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: tet68
I'm sure. The issue had Cuba Gooding on the cover as a cook turned naval gunner. Vol. 4, No. 9, June 2001.
16 posted on 08/26/2003 7:50:02 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: The Wizard
IMO the sound in the gunfights was spectacular ... whether that makes them realistic, I'm not sure.

Otherwise, some comedy relief along the way did help Open Range, but I'd much rather watch Tombstone ('93), Unforgiven ('92) or even Silverado ('85, also with Costner).

17 posted on 08/26/2003 1:26:13 PM PDT by slowry
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To: The Wizard
Another film with gunfire that actually sounds like real gunfire is "The Long Kiss Goodnight", with Geena Davis and Samuel L. Jacksonm, directed by Renny Harlin ("Deep Blue Sea", "Cliffhanger"). My wife and I love it, but it's not for everyone -- it's definitely a "love it or hate it" film, and fair warning on much R-rated language. The gunfire (and there's a lot of it) sounds like a trip to the gun range, including appropriately different sounds for rifles, pistols, etc. There are a couple of car crashes that really give the subwoofer a workout too. The sound folks did good.

Mitch Henessey (Samuel L. Jackson): "I never did one thing right in my life, you know that? Not one. That takes skill."

Mitch: "So, you cold?"
Charlie: "Yeah, freezing."
Mitch: "Well turn on the heat. It doesn't work, but it makes a very annoying noise that distracts from the cold."

18 posted on 08/26/2003 1:47:02 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Lando Lincoln
That settles it then, I WILL see it.
19 posted on 08/26/2003 7:46:23 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: The Wizard
I was just looking at movie ratings on this movie. There are no offensive sex scenes, but there is foul language and obviously violence. It doesn't sound like too bad a film. I will probably go see it.


20 posted on 08/26/2003 11:26:47 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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