[dirtboy]

These programs that see proctoscopes used on U.S. citizens, while we still allow immigrants from terrorists to run around scott free on our soil, tell me just what the goal of these programs are.

There are two basic approaches towards dealing with failure. One is to examine your existing systems to see why they have failed and remediate the situation. The other is to do more of what has already failed in the hopes that more effort will bring about the desired result, which is how we got the Columbia incident and public skools.

[DoughtyOne]

This government is terrified of the American public. Either that or they just want complete control out of desire for total control.

The database on every citizen idea is completely foreign to the understanding of the relationship between citizen and state that I have always thought was proper. And these new surveylance systems are just drachonian.