[SauronOfMordor]

Also, if you fit the "nice guy" pattern, lots of women will try to make you their nice, safe, forgiving, naive little security blanket. The guy whose shoulder they come to cry on when the "mean guy" won't let them spend the night or whatever. Best thing to do is be in the "mean guy" catagory, but occasionally act decent as a sort of merciful condescension.

What I've noticed is that the "Nice Guy" gets no respect because he tolerates not getting respect. The distinguishing characteristic of the "bad boy" is that he doesn't tolerate disrespect, and while he may WANT a woman's company, he doesn't NEED any PARTICULAR woman's company enough to put up with what the "nice guy" will. The result is that he gets respect from women

[SauronOfMordor]

addendum to 184: being a "bad boy" does NOT mean that you treat women badly. It does NOT mean that you don't do nice things for them. It does NOT mean that you don't make them feel loved. It just means that you have a line that may not be crossed without peril to the relationship, and that you have confidence in being able to replace her if need be.

[wimpycat]

There's a lot of truth to that. But there are plenty of nice guys who won't take any crap off anyone; it's just that they do it in a nice way. There's a lot of room to be assertive between Mr. Doormat and Mr. Jerk.

[Yeti]

What I've noticed is that the "Nice Guy" gets no respect because he tolerates not getting respect.

Exactly! Not only does he tolerate it, in some ways he actually suggests it. He writes the "script" for her.