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Roy Moore: In God I Trust
Opinion Journal ^ | 08/25/03 | ROY S. MOORE

Posted on 08/24/2003 9:03:58 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:05:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Why I'm standing up for the Ten Commandments in Alabama.

MONTGOMERY, Ala.--The battle over the Ten Commandments monument I brought into Alabama's Supreme Court is not about a monument and not about politics. (The battle is not even about religion, a term defined by our Founders as "the duty we owe to our creator and the manner for discharging it.") Federal Judge Myron Thompson, who ordered the monument's removal, and I are in perfect agreement on the fact that the issue in this case is: "Can the state acknowledge God?"


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: roymoore; tencommandments
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Spare me the highly selective Jefferson quotes, amigo. I've had a thousand of them posted to me by Christian-bashing libertarians and atheists, over the years.

But such selective and out of context quotes fit the seamless agenda of societal and ecclesial degradation.
81 posted on 08/24/2003 10:32:35 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: xzins
For that matter, has Roy Moore established a religion?

Hey, finally a Mooreite who understands that "establishment" in the First Amendment is a gerund, not a noun.

And, for the record, yes - he has "established" that the Book of Exodus is the supreme law of Alabama - superior to its constitution and guarantees against religious establishment, and superior to the United States Constitution and its guarantees against religious establishment.

82 posted on 08/24/2003 10:33:32 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Roy Moore's Ten Commandments - the ultimate vanity post)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
I don't know why the press never reports that Moore is a West Point graduate. Why do you think that is?
84 posted on 08/24/2003 10:33:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: sinkspur
America is home to all kinds of people.

Are you saying that someone has established a religion and forced Buddhists to attend? Are Buddhists prevented from getting welfare or from voting because they aren't part of the established Catholic Church?

85 posted on 08/24/2003 10:34:47 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
At the baseline here, I am beginning to truly understand why the democrats and republicans fight so mightily over heavy duty judgeships. And I will be calling sen lugar's office here in Indy tomorrow to ask him why in the HELL he hasn't worked to introduce senator bayh to Miguel Estrada. Bayh is cowardly towing the dem line the he doesn't have enough info on Estrada to approve an up or down vote----HOGWASH! Bayh hasn't ONCE taken Estrada's offer to meet personally with ANY senator who has questions.

I understand, via this Ten Commandmants debacle how incredibly important it is to have judges who understand our foundations and the DIFFERENCE between the words FOR and OF!!!!

88 posted on 08/24/2003 10:36:42 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
It is Moore who has a record of service and devotion to his country and it's principles.

Moore pimped the Ten Commandments as a campaign issue in 1998 to get the office he holds now.

Moore, like Huey Long, has duped a lot of people into thinking he has their best interests at heart because he says "God" every ten minutes.

He's a theocrat, Byron. The fact that he, as Supreme Court Chief Justice, ignored an order from a higher court ought to prove to any thinking person that this is about ROY MOORE, and not any "principle."

91 posted on 08/24/2003 10:38:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (God's law is written on men's hearts, not a stone monument.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
It is Moore who has a record of service and devotion to his country and it's principles.

cue stirring music

Moore, who served in Vietnam against the Communists, and who know carries on the good fight against their domestic bastard children, the liberals.

Moore, who can leap tall buildings in a single bound! He's a floor wax and a dessert topping! Exposure to Moore can cure tumors in laboratory rats! Moore will balance your checkbook and make perfect fried eggs! But wait, there's Moore!

You have lined up with his enemies and with FR's enemies on this issue, and it is going to take more than a few highly-interpretable Madison quotes to excuse your conduct.

You have lined up with the fair-weather constitutionalists like Moore, who are willing to turn a blind eye to government expansionism when bolsters your interests. I'm willing to bet that you'd quiver like a salted slug at the thought of increased government regulation of anything else, but government backing of Exodus is a nifty idea. Do you really think that government can be trusted to tell us what we should consider to be God's Law? By his words, Moore does.

Some conservative.

93 posted on 08/24/2003 10:40:55 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Roy Moore's Ten Commandments - the ultimate vanity post)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Actually, establishment can be either a gerund or a noun...(especially since a gerund acts as a noun.)

So, then, if you live in Alabama you are forbidden to vote if you don't follow the "Exodusian" religion? Or are you forbiddent to receive welfare? Or what?

Maybe you have to take an oath of fealty to the "Exodusian" religion? Can you point me to this oath of fealty?

94 posted on 08/24/2003 10:41:13 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Republic
Bayh is cowardly towing the dem line

It's actually 'toeing'. The metaphor is that the person is walking very carefully along a line, which necessitates careful toe placement.

95 posted on 08/24/2003 10:42:15 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Roy Moore's Ten Commandments - the ultimate vanity post)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
NO kidding? Thanks! I has always envisioned it as enslaved men rowing (at least it rhymes with towing, er, toeing!) to the beat of a drum-never veering-staying the course regardless of mere obstacles. And in Bayh's case-that obstacle could be called 'the truth'.
96 posted on 08/24/2003 10:45:39 PM PDT by Republic
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To: xzins
So, then, if you live in Alabama you are forbidden to vote if you don't follow the "Exodusian" religion? Or are you forbiddent to receive welfare? Or what?

You're forbidden from being considered to have a "real" religion, according to Judge Moore's published statements. And this comes dangerously - and unconstitutionally - close to being forbidden equal rights and equal justice in Alabama courtrooms.

Maybe you have to take an oath of fealty to the "Exodusian" religion? Can you point me to this oath of fealty?

I can point you to Christ's and St. Paul's statements that we should not pay fealty to the commandments of Exodus, but somehow I doubt that's what you're looking for. The "Exodusian" religions which you are seeking to have identified are those which venerate the Book of Exodus as holy. This generally includes the Jews, virtually all sects of Christians, and (in some peoples' opinions) the Muslims. This excludes the Buddhists, the Hindus, the atheists, Shintoists, and the minor religions. Coincidentally enough, Judge Moore is trying to have it declared that the "Exodusian" version of God's word is supreme in Alabama, whether everyone else likes it or not. The federal district court stepped in to restore the civil rights of non-"Exodusians".

98 posted on 08/24/2003 10:47:07 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Roy Moore's Ten Commandments - the ultimate vanity post)
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To: Republic
It's like the line in the sand. I think in olden times they made the prizefighters put their toes on the line when they commenced the bloodfest.
99 posted on 08/24/2003 10:48:40 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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