Roy Moore: In God I Trust

Opinion Journal ^ | 08/25/03 | ROY S. MOORE

[Pokey78]

Why I'm standing up for the Ten Commandments in Alabama.

MONTGOMERY, Ala.--The battle over the Ten Commandments monument I brought into Alabama's Supreme Court is not about a monument and not about politics. (The battle is not even about religion, a term defined by our Founders as "the duty we owe to our creator and the manner for discharging it.") Federal Judge Myron Thompson, who ordered the monument's removal, and I are in perfect agreement on the fact that the issue in this case is: "Can the state acknowledge God?"

[xzins]

So, then, any public official who has a religion in which he truly believes is not able to be impartial?

In that case, any judge who has no religion cannot be impartial toward Christians. Is that your point? And just think, if they have NO religion; and the state says NO religious beliefs can be mentioned, then that plays right into their hands and elevates their BELIEF SYSTEM above all others.

But you didn't answer my question.

Did someone declare a state religion? Are buddhists ineligible to apply for welfare or vote or something in Alabama?

After all, an established religion is an established religion.

[SedVictaCatoni]

It's like the line in the sand. I think in olden times they made the prizefighters put their toes on the line when they commenced the bloodfest.

Actually, it's even more interesting than that - in the House of Commons in London, there are two facing sets of seats, and a carpeted aisle between them (like our House of Representatives, if the two parties were looking at each other rather than at the Speaker).

There is a line in the carpet in front of each party's benches. Members of Parliament are forbidden to walk any farther forwards towards the other party than their line. That is because a person standing on that line cannot quite reach the other side with a drawn sword to skewer their counterparts. Members had to 'toe the line' or they would be ejected.

[Fred Mertz]

Thanks for that tidbit.

[xzins]

I didn't see you point to some law that declared "exodusianism" to be the new state religion of Alabama. It hasn't been passed has it?

And that's ALL our constitution forbids. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." No one has to sign up. No one has to register. You can still vote. That is, there's no law about an established religion.

What I understand is that you don't like it that Judge Moore is a true believer in his own religion. Is it surprising to you to find out that true Baptists think their religion is right and that all others are anywhere from less right to wrong. And Catholics are the same. And Hindus are the same.

But, here's one for you. Judge Moore is a citizen of the state of Alabama, and according to their own Constitution, Section 3: and that the civil rights, privileges, and capacities of any citizen shall not be in any manner affected by his religious principles.

Judge Moore's allowed to believe anything he wants in the area of religion AND it shall not affect any of his rights, privileges, and capacities. But this is the same as the US Constitution "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..Moore, who can leap tall buildings in a single bound!...

Hey, Judge Moore was fighting the VC when you were just a bulge in your daddy's polyester slacks, bozo.

It is only the anonimity of the Internet that enables something like you to take a shot at a man like him.

[nobdysfool]

Maybe the whole question of whose god is the true God could be settled the way Elijah did in the OT. That would settle the question once and for all, now wouldn't it? All we need is a Prophet willing to challenge the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't make any difference to Liberals. They'd still complain.

Oh well....it was an idea....

[KC_Conspirator]

I don't think that Republicans could have stopped a confirmation back then. From November to when Reagan was inaugerated, Carter and his democrat buddies passed 175 new laws, including the bogus "Superfund" for liberal tort lawyers, before they were ushered out of office. How is that for abuse of power? (Actually, after seeing how Bill Clinton left office, I guess every democrat takes as much as they can carry when they lose).

[SedVictaCatoni]

I didn't see you point to some law that declared "exodusianism" to be the new state religion of Alabama. It hasn't been passed has it?

All I can guess is that you don't know the difference between common law and statutory law.

What I understand is that you don't like it that Judge Moore is a true believer in his own religion.

I like it just fine. I'm a true believer in mine. It's called Protestantism - you may have heard of it... it started out rather well as an attempt to get the government to stop ordering people to obey certain religious doctrines, but then went south when its adherents gained the upper hand and started doing the same thing. Some people never learn. Moore certainly hasn't.

Judge Moore's allowed to believe anything he wants in the area of religion

Absolutely. But he's not allowed to declare his beliefs to be superior to the law of Alabama or of the United States.

[F16Fighter]

" They [The Founders] wanted to guard against Christian sects persecuting each other by using the King's authority."

THE reason for the implementation of the so-called "wall of separation between church and state" in a nutshell...

Of course this fact escapes our friends' agenda-driven rationale.

[SedVictaCatoni]

You are so extreme in your anti-Christian views you now take it for granted that the State's mission should be to guard against any manifestation of the church and its beliefs in daily life.

And you're such an extremist theocrat that you now take it for granted that the State's mission should be to tell us what God is like and what He wants.

What I am disgusted with is the way you have taken up with the Dem/lib cause on this.

It's interesting how seven Republican members of the Alabama Supreme Court who voted to override Moore have mysteriously adopted the "Dem" cause as well.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..LOL...Expect to be bludgeoned to death by Luis'"Googling," and bored to death by the rest of this coffee-clutch posse of delusional historical revisionists...

I look upon it in horror, my friend, because until now I had always thought Luis to be a Freeper of quality. Now I realise I should have looked behind the mask a little earlier. By what right do these blokes act as fifth columnists when our fellow posters are on the front line at the courthouse? I have tried to view it from their perspective and I can promise you I would shut up, even if I held the same views, once I knew our team was freeping the libs on this one. As to their abuse of the First, with their disgusting and slanderous attacks on Roy Moore....the simple fact is that Roy Moore would be in place, in this picture. Cheers, By

[Robert_Paulson2]

ahh sink....

see you are at it again... tormenting the pseudo christian animist and idolatry community who worship judge moore as their very own "virtual savior" from the evils of "secular states" and are in ecstatic tongues-speaking awe over the "marble slab" ... who foolishly believe that by removing it, we are removing the omnipresent and immutable ONE and only Living God.

Pehaps it would be more appropriate to leave the idolaters alone in their own religous delusions. They will no doubt soon discover this man's more base motives politically, and that "Moore and his Marbles" do not a savior make.

All this "idol worshipping" of a stone... really does not belong in a secular government building... and that is why it is being removed. People are now threatening to kill over the stone.... and Judge Moore. He and his religious extremist sponsors, are raking in the contributions over this as never before... $$$$ praise the stone, and send us those cards and letters.

Idolatry it appears is a very profitable business indeed.

[Fred Mertz]

I said nothing improper. I just spoke the truth.

IIRC, I said two and a half words to Luis. "You're irrelevant."

Oh, maybe it was my tagline...LOL