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Geoghan's Death Is Described
Washington Post ^ | 8/25/03 | Jonathan Finer

Posted on 08/24/2003 8:30:56 PM PDT by hole_n_one

washingtonpost.com

Geoghan's Death Is Described
Fellow Inmate Jammed Cell Door During Attack

By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 25, 2003; Page A01

BOSTON, Aug. 24 -- John J. Geoghan, the former priest and convicted child molester killed in a Massachusetts prison Saturday, was followed into his cell just after lunch by a fellow inmate who bound and gagged him before strangling him with a bed sheet, according to a union representative for prison guards.

The attacker, whom authorities identified as Joseph L. Druce, jammed the electronically operated cell door to prevent guards from opening it. He tied Geoghan's hands behind his back with a sheet and gagged him. He then repeatedly jumped from the bed in the cell onto Geoghan's motionless body and beat the defrocked priest with his fists.

Only one correction officer was on duty in the protective custody unit at the time, according to an account of the attack provided by Robert Brouillette, an executive of the Massachusetts Correction Officers Federated Union, who interviewed correction officers for seven hours Saturday. State and county officials involved in the investigation would not comment on Brouillette's description.

Druce entered Geoghan's cell just before noon, Brouillette said, when the prisoners left their one-person concrete cells to return their lunch trays. The solid cell door has a chest-high window that guards can look through as they pass by. When the officer on duty heard noises coming from Geoghan's cell but could not open the cell door from the control panel at his station, other officers were summoned by walkie-talkie. It took several of them to pry open the door.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geoghan; jailhousejustice; killed
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To: F16Fighter
Sorry, wasn't finished with that before I hit post.

They chose evil. And that in itself is sad. I just simply can't judge the souls of these men and say that they should rot in hell. I don't wish hell on anyone and I don't believe that anyone understanding the eternalness of it should either.

To tell the truth, I prayed for Hussein and his sons. I prayed that somewhere in the darkness that they were living in that they may see the Light and receive Him, Jesus. I pray that the Palestinians will do the same. I pray for the man who murdered my dearest cousin and who is on death row. I pray for his salvation. Yes, that there is a need for justice to be served; I agree. The justice given here is temporal and never TRULY satisfies nor does it undo the pain and hurt caused by the person who inflicted misery, but the Justice given after we leave is final and eternal.

161 posted on 08/25/2003 9:29:24 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
You're a better person than I, and salt of the earth, doing exactly as Jesus asked -- may God grant you strength in your ordeal...

We agree that we have no right to judge who enters Heaven, but certainly have the right AND obligation to judge and discern evil here on earth, to protect the innocent, repel evil, and preserve our freedoms.

162 posted on 08/25/2003 9:56:45 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: PleaseNoMore
"They chose the evil."

Yes, while Free Will was given by our Creator.

163 posted on 08/25/2003 9:58:43 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Oh no! Please, I am no better than you or anyone else. Where I have weaknesses in some areas you may be strong. I do completely understand what you are saying. I hope that you understand me as well. While it may sound pompous, and it is most certainly NOT intended to be, I must confess that one of my prayers daily is to see humankind, His most beloved creation, as Christ sees it. I do sincerely pray for His love to be manifested through me and in me. I fail often because of "myself".
164 posted on 08/25/2003 10:21:24 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
I think God can use a sinner's death to send a message just as he did with Jesus' death. Perhaps this is what happened.
165 posted on 08/25/2003 10:50:55 AM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice
I certainly agree with you that he can use a sinner's death to send a message. I just believe that the fact that Geoghan chose a sinful life is pitiful when he could have lived such a joyful and free life in Christ.
166 posted on 08/25/2003 10:52:50 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: F16Fighter; sinkspur
LOL. As if followers of Christ are non-violent pacifists. Which reminds me, what is your view of the death penalty. Don't even think of saying you are for it.
167 posted on 08/25/2003 3:44:21 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: cherry
I said about the worst thing, not the worst thing. Molesting children is very close though. It can make someones like turn into hell on earth.
168 posted on 08/25/2003 3:45:08 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: freebilly
I didn't commit the murder, I just am glad it happened. Does that make me a bad person?

If so, sign me, bad person.

169 posted on 08/25/2003 3:47:27 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: dogbyte12
Hmmm. Interesting comments. What you just typed is that there is no difference in this man murdering a convicted child molestor (dozens of children) and him murdering a prison guard. That is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on FR in a long time. BTW, just because the man is in prison doesn't mean he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Schools in the 1960's and 1970's ruined a generation. Your post is proof.
170 posted on 08/25/2003 3:49:57 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Don't even think of saying you are for it.

Of course I'm for it. If Geoghan had been given the death penalty, it would have been up to the STATE to administer it, not some cretinous Nazi.

171 posted on 08/25/2003 3:50:57 PM PDT by sinkspur (God's law is written on men's hearts, not a stone monument.)
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To: Fred Mertz
You are the one who seems to be upset about a convicted repeat child molestor being killed in prison. If being glad the human garbage is dead makes me sick in your mind, I guess I'm sick.
172 posted on 08/25/2003 3:51:17 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: JulieRNR21
So what if he has a grudge against homosexuals? I would never condone violence against a person who has consensual sexual relations with another adult. That's not what we are talking about here, is it?
173 posted on 08/25/2003 3:52:20 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: 1smallVoice
Geoghan's murder was not an accident, God was in control and could have spared him.

You have attribution for that statement?

174 posted on 08/25/2003 3:53:11 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Hmmm. Interesting comments. What you just typed is that there is no difference in this man murdering a convicted child molestor (dozens of children) and him murdering a prison guard. That is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on FR in a long time. BTW, just because the man is in prison doesn't mean he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. Schools in the 1960's and 1970's ruined a generation. Your post is proof.

No, you nitwit. Your post is proof of your poor critical thinking skills. I am not equating the pedophile with a prison guard. So let me say this slowly.

If prisoners have the ability to murder one another, they will have access at times to murder guards. If you want the guy who killed the pedophile, to also have the ability to kill guards be my guest. Do you understand better? You can go on thinking a guy who strangles people, posts phony anthrax letters, who mails poop to D.A.'s did a kick ass thing. I think that he should be better supervised so this happens, and I don't want him dispensing justice.

In your little mind, you think this means I think pedophiles are ok. Grow a brain, and have a nice day.

175 posted on 08/25/2003 3:55:52 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Doesn't make you a bad person. It just makes you what all of us are.

signed,
a sinner

ps, There's forgiveness of sins available for all individuals. For even that dirtbag, Druce, who killed this other dirtbag, Geoghan. For even that dirtbag, Geoghan, who molested over 100 kids. For even the good kid who never said a bad word, who helped old ladies across the street, and who even followed ALL the 10 Commandments.

When a person understands that no person can ever be good enough to earn God's forgiveness or bad enough to earn God's rejection it starts them on a path that might lead them to a transformed life.

For the here and now, however, you're free to be as good or bad as you choose. It's merely a reflection of that which you choose to serve.

176 posted on 08/25/2003 4:09:54 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: dogbyte12
Please for give me for not getting this: "If prisoners have the ability to murder one another, they will have access at times to murder guards. If you want the guy who killed the pedophile, to also have the ability to kill guards be my guest. Do you understand better? You can go on thinking a guy who strangles people, posts phony anthrax letters, who mails poop to D.A.'s did a kick ass thing. I think that he should be better supervised so this happens, and I don't want him dispensing justice."

From your previous post:

"The guy who did this gets a freebie. Does he get double secret life now? What if he killed a guard? But, this is different right?"

You see, I am not used to dealing with those who could only be called functionally literate.

177 posted on 08/25/2003 4:16:29 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Fred Mertz
How can you write such a thing? Yes, you need help too.

There's a whole lot on this thread in that condition. I wonder how many of these folks are Catholic or some other Christian denomination? Have they ever heard of redemption, mercy, "...forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."?

178 posted on 08/25/2003 4:17:37 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: sinkspur
Hmmm. So the state deciding it is wrong or right is okay with you? Well, how's this: A hundred years ago Geoghan would have been hanged in front of the County courthouse. So, I guess that was right then? But, now that the crime took place in a different time and in a liberal state, it would be wrong to kill the same criminal in the same way? In other words, justice, and right and wrong are simply a function of time and circumstance?
179 posted on 08/25/2003 4:18:48 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: dennisw
Unlikely but he's their hammer of justice.

Hammer of Justice??? Get a grip. Druce is a sick, demented murderer. Since when is cold blooded murder justice? I pity you.

180 posted on 08/25/2003 4:20:15 PM PDT by pgkdan
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