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McClintock Facing Republican Threats?
Belly of the Beast Blog ^ | August 24, 2004 | Eric Hogue

Posted on 08/24/2003 1:47:41 PM PDT by Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ

Now that Bill Simon has left the building, State Senator Tom McClintock currenlty has the 'only growing campaign'. I'm reading the LA Times article on Simon's departure this morning and I find this nugget of political muscle.

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To: Roscoe; demlosers
Repeating it doesn't make it so.
Perhaps.
But IGNORING REALITY will not make it go away, either.
It appears that even MahaRushie may be joining the ever-growing bandwagon of support for Arnold:

Arnold Answers "Rush Limbaugh Challenge"
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 21 August 2003 | Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 08/24/2003 3:51 PM PDT by demlosers

The audio links below - featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger's economic presser with George Schultz and Warren Buffett, plus clips of Ronald Reagan from 1964 and 1981 - prove that we are "show prep for the rest of the media." The ripple began with my op-ed in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal: California Needs Conservatism. Liz Ann Sonders of Charles Schwab, who couldn't bring herself to say my name, was nevertheless among the first to cite Arnold taking the advice of a "great Wall Street Journal op-ed" and thus harnessing "the Reagan Effect."

It was no accident that Arnold's presser occurred after 3:00PM ET. I ended Wednesday's program with a simple monologue transcribed under the headlined: "Just Be Yourself, Arnold." I said this because I believe Arnold, based on his life story, is a conservative. A few hours after this monologue and the candidate's presser, Fred Barnes said that Schwarzenegger "really did take up what I consider the Rush Limbaugh Challenge..." A short time later on Kudlow & Cramer, Tony Blankley cited "Rush Limbaugh's theory that California has become a perfect laboratory for the failures of liberalism."

This was my op-ed challenge: "We conservatives need to learn from Ronald Reagan. Conservatives need to stop being timid and pessimistic and insecure because California needs solutions. There is no better time and place to establish and illustrate the primacy of conservatism than now. Now, it's true not all of California's problems mirror those of the late 70s and early 80s, but many of them do - particularly those that forced this recall. Now, if one man with a vision completely changed the course of a nation and the world, why can't it happen in a single state?"

How Arnold Got His (Conservative) Groove Back

If you saw Arnold's press conference, you know how he rose to my challenge - and you can relive those moments through the magic of the RushLimbaugh.com audio links below. I was struck in particular by Secretary Schultz. He apparently saw a need to validate Schwarzenegger's maturity, competence and all that. It reminded me of his statement after Reagan walked out on Gorbachev at Reykjavik: "I never felt prouder of my president than I was today." Schultz knows they're trying to do the old tar-the-(R)-as-an-idiot trick on (R)nold. As for Buffett, Arnold told him he'd have to do 500 sit-ups if he ever mentioned Prop. 13 and suggested hiking property taxes again. Arnold's impassioned offensive against punishing the people of California with high taxes represented a 180 towards that famous '64 Reagan stump speech for Goldwater. Schwarzenegger hammered away at the need for fiscal discipline. It's another conservative principle: You can't spend more than you take in. He said, "[O]f course I want to give away anything and everything. But can we afford it?" Great question! Besides, you ruin people's incentive to support themselves and they don't appreciate it if you give them everything.

Arnold told of a woman in tears when Prop. 13 passed because it meant she didn't have to sell her house to pay taxes, and told Buffett his taxes were lower than others because he hadn't sold his house and had it reassessed. A reporter pressed Arnold to name a program he'd cut, and his response brought to mind Reagan's overall philosophy on not spending more than you earn. Arnold nuked the reporter's premise that the very people who've overspent the people's money are the only ones who can reverse the trend. He's auditing the books, and he says he's going to find places to cut. This, and his rejection of tax hikes as an option, contrast starkly to the $8 billion tax gouge of Davis and the $7.9 billion proposed gouge of Cruz Bustamante...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

101 posted on 08/24/2003 3:59:48 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Roscoe
Arnold is a Republican

Repeating it doesn't make this true either (not to me anyway)
102 posted on 08/24/2003 4:02:22 PM PDT by airborne
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To: RonDog
As for Buffett, Arnold told him he'd have to do 500 sit-ups if he ever mentioned Prop. 13 and suggested hiking property taxes again.

You don't float the same trial balloon twice.

103 posted on 08/24/2003 4:03:03 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: JoeSchem
Godwin's Law [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Traditionally, once this occurs, and especially if the Nazi reference is completely out of left field and totally inapplicable to the topic at hand, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.

104 posted on 08/24/2003 4:04:13 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
PING!

Your One Stop Resource For All The California Recall News!

Want on our daily or major news ping lists? Freepmail DoctorZin.

105 posted on 08/24/2003 4:05:04 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
May I add you to my recall ping list?
106 posted on 08/24/2003 4:05:41 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
It's this BS that causes the GOP to be minority status there. Parsky played those games before. The WH is doing the same with Affirm Action up here in Michigan(even though it is HATED here).
107 posted on 08/24/2003 4:08:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Boom Boom! Out go the lights!" - Pat Travers)
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To: Kevin Curry
Prepare to get whacked on the shins by the Schwarzenpubbies. Their motto: "He may be a Clinton-praising, gun-hating, gay activist high-fiving, abortion-excusing, social program-loving liberal, but he's OUR Clinton-praising, gun-hating, gay activist high-fiving, abortion-excusing, social progam-loving liberal."

What's going on here? We agree.

108 posted on 08/24/2003 4:09:00 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Boom Boom! Out go the lights!" - Pat Travers)
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To: Mike Darancette
As a good Republican Conservative this puts me in a quandary because I so hate to look to polls. But, if Arnold is way ahead in October I'll have to choke down my bile and vote for him over McClintock.

Well heck, if the polls are going to determine your vote, why don't we just do away with the elections and all their expense, and let polls decide our winner?

The only poll that matters is the one coming from the voting boothes on OCT 7.

Hb

109 posted on 08/24/2003 4:09:46 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: cyncooper; EGPWS
Tom McClintock Responds to Bustamante's "Tough on California" Plan


Senator Tom McClintock today issued the following response to Cruz Bustamante's "tough on California" statement.

"I was hoping for more of a message of hope and optimism from our Lt. Governor. What California received was more of the failed Gray Davis type leadership from the second most powerful person in the state. When the Lt. Governor says we have to 'sacrifice' he is not kidding. Unfortunately, it is the hard-working, taxpaying families of California that will suffer and not his special interest and public employee union friends.

"At a time when state government is taking a higher percentage of California's personal income than at any time in our history, Mr. Bustamante proposes a TEN BILLION dollar tax increase. This will mean that working families and small businesses will have to find another $1,150 somewhere in their budgets to continue the Sacramento spending spree.

"Much like Governor Davis, who called his illegal tripling of the car tax a 'cut' in state spending, Mr. Bustamante includes the transfer of some $2 BILLION of mandated socialized medicine costs to small businesses as a 'savings' for the state.

"As for my three simple questions that I asked of Cruz this week, it is obvious that he will not join with me in abolishing the car tax, since he is only willing to return about half of what Gray Davis illegally took from motorists. There was nothing tough on energy—as he said nothing about the $42 billion of overpriced power contracts.

"Finally, there was certainly nothing tough on the applicant attorneys and special interests since he did not mention the third major crisis of the Davis administration. My plan to replace California’s broken Workers’ Comp system with the successful Arizona model would save state and local governments at least $2.5 billion annually.

"It’s time Cruz Bustamante explains why we should vote no on the recall but support him for governor. He can’t have it both ways. If he thinks Davis' dismal record is worth defending, he should make that case. If he really wants to replace him, how would he do things differently?"

VOTE4MCCLINTOCK or pay$ the con$equence$! click here! http://www.tommcclintock.com
111 posted on 08/24/2003 4:13:23 PM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Arnold is a baby killer
Arnold is a RINO
Arnold says he wants to raise taxes
Arnold is married to a Kennedy
Arnold is a Neocon

That's okay, let 'em. Doesn't change the fact that McC looks x-eyed when he looks into a camera!

112 posted on 08/24/2003 4:14:46 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: 68 grunt
Arnold is a baby killer

That isn't fair! He reportedly might be thinking about not extending his support to partial birth abortions.

113 posted on 08/24/2003 4:19:37 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Hoverbug
The only poll that matters is the one coming from the voting boothes on OCT 7.

And there I will cast my vote for the Republican that I feel has a chance of winning (I hope it can be McClintock). No more a part of the Masada Wing of the GOP.

114 posted on 08/24/2003 4:20:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Christian Conservatives For Dean '04)
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To: Roscoe
I'm aware it's a recall. McClintock is trailing AS in the polls. As the spoiler, he's the Perot in this election, not AS. Just as Perot trailed in the polls but kept going until Clinton was elected.

Face it, there's no time to fight it out. It's either Cruz or AS. Tom doesn't have the money or the time to get his name or policy out there to be evaluated.

The simple fact is, Tom has known what the problem is for years, he's presented his solutions, but has been unable to convince anyone to do what he proposes. That's the sad truth of the matter. This isn't an ordinary election with ordinary issues. This is a question of survival for California.

115 posted on 08/24/2003 4:24:28 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: beckett; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; heleny; summer; Rabid Republican; ...
FYI Tom McClintock received over THREE MILLION VOTES in the November election, 100K more votes than Simon and more votes than any other Republican running for statewide office in spite of being outspent 5-1 and still came within 17k votes of winning. Now 3 million votes is what I would call a serious voting base! Now that Tokyo Rose propaganda "you can't win" that I see floating around FR, just doesn't fly in America and hasn't since 1945. Only quitters "can't win!" VOTE4MCCLINTOCK or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommccintock.com
116 posted on 08/24/2003 4:25:42 PM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: jfritsch
Besides, I think McClintock said it best yesterday (what he meant to say):

"If the most qualified candidate professional politician must defer every time a celebrity or a millionaire casts a longing eye on public office, we’ve lost something very important in our democracy, and it’s called merit. The professional politician who never worked an honest day in his life must always be the one to save our democracy!"

117 posted on 08/24/2003 4:28:56 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: kellynla
Very good.

Now when he makes his television appearances, that is the tack he should be taking.
119 posted on 08/24/2003 4:30:44 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
Or McClintock could be Arnold's Lt. Gov. and everyone would be happy!!!!!
120 posted on 08/24/2003 4:35:05 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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