Ten Commandments on Display Has No Legal Standing

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[exnavy]

Will someone please notify God that the ten commandments have no legal standing.

[greydog]

And while we're at it, let's get all those crosses out of Arlington Cemetery. It's public property, you know.

There's an idea. Have somebody sue to remove those crosses and see what the court says then.

[ASOC]

AT some risk to my flame proof drawers.....

Separating religion from politics IS a big deal - ever wonder why the “prods” and “catholics” (lower case intentional) get by in the good old US of A, when back in the old country- they are willing to kill each other? Because one controls the levers of government - very visible, very much in your face.

That kind of silliness is not really tolerated here, one (specific) sect does not rule...Not convinced? - witness India, Pakistan, Shia vs Sunni, and on and on. Bad news all-around.

Do I agree with the ACLU? Nope, Just making a point that some folks may see the "rock" as more of a threat than you kind souls born and raised in the USA and as a member of the dominate sect....... Please think before you flame, and if you must flame, please do so in a private reply. No reason to tie up the board....

[capt. norm]

Wow!

Just finished saving this into my archives for a longer and more thorough reading.

[Maelstrom]

The former USSR, China, N. Korea...these are the examples you're looking for, for that is where religion and politics are separated, by law.

In the US, the battle is not about the separation of church and state, it's about the prohibition of religion on any public lands.

[Congressman Billybob]

I agree. Click below. Sometimes satire and humor are "the best attack on a public humbug," as Mark Twain wrote.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "In the Justices We Trust?" posted on FR, other publication to come.

[SandRat]

Gay Bishops are in, Boy Scouts are out, and sodomy has become a civil right, protected by the Constitution somewhere. Okay, I get it. According to our new god, the oldest industry on earth (agriculture) has become the most dangerous to the environment. And we all know that with all the craziness in schools these days, the last thing we need is prayer inside those buildings. Good thing we threw God out of there a long time ago. Just look at how much schools have improved since then.

Let's simplify the equation, shall we?

Evil and perversion are in and following the tenet of "As for me and my house we follow the ways of the LORD!" are out.

Band together and change this now or suffer the penalty of heaven, as did the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah!

[f.Christian]

aclu shariaist ... ussc mullahs --- ayatollas ?

[boris]

"Separating religion from politics IS a big deal - ever wonder why the “prods” and “catholics” (lower case intentional) get by in the good old US of A, when back in the old country- they are willing to kill each other? Because one controls the levers of government - very visible, very much in your face."

The problem is that the First Amendment does not mention "separating religion from politics", nor does the Constitution in general. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

In short, it is a restriction on the Federal Congress from making laws regarding religion; it does not say that a courthouse in Alabama cannot display the Commandments.

This is simple English. I repeat: NOWHERE in the Constitution is anything that requires "separation of religion from politics."

--Boris

[sinkspur]

In the US, the battle is not about the separation of church and state, it's about the prohibition of religion on any public lands.

Correction: It is the prohibition of a particular religion on public lands. The 10 Commandments are on display in the Texas Supreme Court building, the US Supreme Court building, and other public buildings.

Moore was never interested in the 10 Commandments on display; his rock is about Roy Moore's definition of religion. Check out what he thinks about Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists, and that they have no rights in this country except those rights given to them by the Judeo-Christian religion.

Warped.

[VRW Conspirator]

From the link: I pledge allegiance to the Supreme Court of the United States, and to the Republic which it controls, one nation, under nobody in particular, with liberty and justice for all (or at least for all who can get five Justices to buy their argument).”

LOL. I was thinking along the same lines when I read this article. LOL. Judge Moore just might be the political re-incarnation of John Brown.

I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me the Supreme Court.

Is it not true that all judges take an oath to office and invoke God in that oath? What a deilemma - Denounce God yet defend the right to the office.

[jlogajan]

Will someone please notify God that the ten commandments have no legal standing.

I'm happy to notify YOU that most of the 10 Commandments not only have no legal standing here, but OUGHT NOT have legal standing in any civilized country.

Check out the first four:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

These might apply where the Taliban rules, but they have no business being enforced in this land of the free.

[Cold Heat]

Separating religion from politics IS a big deal - ever wonder why the “prods” and “catholics” (lower case intentional) get by in the good old US of A, when bac..........

I understand your point, and share the thought that religions often misbehave and kill each other in the name of God. but you are overlooking something.

the constitution never envisions a separation of church and state. This was a invention of the courts in the early sixties. we have seen the degradation of our foundations ever since.

The point is that government was prohibited from endorsing or prohibiting any religion. As such, it was never intended that it could prohibit the display of a reference to God. Their is no religious context to the commandments, only a reference to laws passed down by the almighty that nearly all religions endorse. The suit was brought by atheists who do represent a religion by definition. The ten commandments do not.

IMHO

[f.Christian]

Handchoppers ... you !

[jlogajan]

Their is no religious context to the commandments

The first four are specficially about a specific God and a specific religion:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

[sweetliberty]

J.J. Johnson, as usual, hit it dead on. Brings to mind an incident I had with a liberal a couple of years back. I posted an article in a political chat room that was more derogatory of President Bush than even most of what we see out there right now. (It wasn't an article I accepted, btw). But it was interesting dynamic to note that in light of that article, one of his harshest critics in the chat room came to his defense. Just thought I'd share.

[f.Christian]

You remind me of the first time I heard of bloodletting ... lobotomies --- QUACKS !

[jlogajan]

Handchoppers ... you !

Whassamatta U.

[f.Christian]

Oh ...

the hierachy of Truth ... the top is missing - buried ---

you got it upside down ... again !