[B Knotts]

That's true. The economy is improving, but it's not obvious to most people yet.

[B Knotts]

Or, better yet, the woodshed. :-)

[dogbyte12]

This is a jobless recovery. When 3,000,000 more people are out of work, it's hard to tell them in the midst of another layoff of 1,300 at HP, and 1,400 at Boeing, that technically the economy is growing, even though unemployment is up. Somebody refinancing their home in order to stay afloat while they look for work is not interested in technical arguments.