[grania]

Yeah, that's the same kind of thinking that led voters to vote for Perot instead of GHWB in '92. You know what that got us? 8 years of Clinton. And now you want at least 2-6 years of Bustamante. Great...

Perot wouldn't have gotten hardly any votes at all (except maybe himself and his wife) if GeorgeI hadn't lied about taxes and gotten us involved with the NAFTA disaster.

I'd wager that Perot's votes mostly came from those who would've stayed home and those who would've gone to Clinton out of disgust for having George I abandon the principles his supporters believed in.

This sounds like a case where the Conservative Republicans aren't abandoning the Republican Party. The Party abandoned them by supporting Ahhhnold. So, live with it. (Just like GWB will have to next election if he doesn't start doing something about the invasion, jobs, and getting PBA signed)

[Recourse]

Wow, you're wrong on every count. Just pull out your World Almanac and look at the 1992, 1996, and 2000 elections by candidate. You can see that where Perot was a factor, he took almost all Republican votes.

And as for NAFTA, I hate to say this, but the Republican Party always put free trade high in its platform. Why? Because it is good for the US. Yes, we export low-wage jobs. Good. We would do it whether we had NAFTA or not. When we export those jobs, investment is driven to more profitable, high-wage industries.

[sofaman]

So Conservatives are going to pint the gun at their own head?

Conservatives caused a Republican Prs to lose his re-election bid because they disagreed with him?

George Bush 2 had better watch out because Conservatives would rather have a Liberal Democrat as President, than vote for George Bush2 even though he is WAAAAAYYYYYYYYY more conservative than any Democrat contender, but he doesn't toe the Conservative line 100% of the time?

I am beginning to despair. Is this how we think? We can't see that sometimes it IS the lesser of 2 evils? We would rather lose and damage the country or the state because we are so "principled"? Please explain the logic in that.

In the other hand, please don't. I have a headache.