McClintock now has a clear field - - conservatives have one horse to ride!

churchillbuff ^ | AUG. 23, 03 | churchillbuff

[sofaman]

So Conservatives are going to pint the gun at their own head?

Conservatives caused a Republican Prs to lose his re-election bid because they disagreed with him?

George Bush 2 had better watch out because Conservatives would rather have a Liberal Democrat as President, than vote for George Bush2 even though he is WAAAAAYYYYYYYYY more conservative than any Democrat contender, but he doesn't toe the Conservative line 100% of the time?

I am beginning to despair. Is this how we think? We can't see that sometimes it IS the lesser of 2 evils? We would rather lose and damage the country or the state because we are so "principled"? Please explain the logic in that.

In the other hand, please don't. I have a headache.

[Mini-14]

Thanks for posting the picture fritsch, I think you should post the picture at the beginning of every "Let's Terminate the Conservatives" thread.

[witnesstothefall]

This is true. So we should stop making excuses for Arnold and focus on the many years of performance that Tom McClintock has....

What are you talking about? How many jobs has McClintock ever created, compared to Arnold?

How many taxes has he paid, compared to Arnold?

How many tax dollars did he draw at the government trough, and for how long, compared to Arnold?

How much influence and leadership can he hope to bring to the job, compared to Arnold?

You're comparing apples and watermelons. McClintock cannot hope to eclipse Arnold Schwarzandhoweveryouspellhisname.

[freedumb2003]

http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/main2.htm

Yes, but it is a good vanity and I stand by my analysis. It saves time and energy and is probably the only analysis that provides hope for California.

We don't have time for false modesty. On this one I am right.

[deport]

McClintock now has a clear field - -

Yep it's his to win or lose..... Can't blame anyone else but his drawing power and ability to persuade the electorate to select him over the other 134 choices.

He has 44 days to raise his electablity to some level that will win. Can he do it? Who knows but he needs to increase his percentages by 1/2% or better per day over the next 44 Days to even have a chance.... If not the needs to step aside and endorse the leading republican that can beat the democrat.

Arnold has the heavy MOJO at this time. If he faulters then he needs to step aside and endorse the leading Republican. So can McClintock tap into it?

[grania]

You can see that where Perot was a factor, he took almost all Republican votes.

Yes...but what I'm saying is George I had lost them anyway. It just might be that a lot of those Perot voters (disgusted Republicans) would have stayed home or voted for Clinton.

[freedumb2003]

Uh, ignore the wierd link. A cut-and-paste problem that got caught in a temporal vortex. The PLAN was to quote your cutting invective as follows:

LOL you're sending me to a vanity? A vanity you wrote? Talk about being vain!

[zbigreddogz]

Your out of your gord if you think any but a VERY few (I'm thinking 4 digits) would have voted Clinton. Bush 41 woulda walked in if it wern't for Perot.

And if all of you McClintiacks insist on riding with him, your going to ride right over a cliff.

A vote for McClintock, as admirable of a man as he might be, is a vote for Bustamante. Save your strength, and Toms, for Boxer.

[sofaman]

"You're right, who gives a care what Clinton has gotten away with. I'm sure the victums (sic) of 9/11 could not agree with you more !!"

That is typical! I say that Clinton's impeachment has nothing to do with California's recall election for Governor, and suddenly you're throwing 9/11 in my face?

This is supposedly a rational answer to my comment? What is that supposed to do, cause me to change my mind because some twit can't have a rational argument without resorting to insults and innuendo? A discussion about Arnold possibly being elected Governor of California sends you into a paroxysm of innuendo that somehow my support or potential support for Arnold caused 9/11?

Is this what the conservative movement has come to? Whatever happened to the rational thoughts of Gingrich, Reagan, and Cheney? People who knew what it takes to win.....This, friends, is frightening. We are slipping into the old ways> The ways that sent us into the political wilderness for 40 years....

[dwills]

a RINO runs for his own ambition, while a Republican will do what it takes to ensure the party's victory

[TheDon]

In case you haven't heard the latest, Arnold's chief spokesman, is Arnold. And Arnold is a staunch supporter of Prop 13, and 187. Arnold is going to cut spending, which is what the governor is supposed to do.

Pete Wilson left the state with a multibillion dollar surplus. The taxes Wilson signed all had sunset provisions, and have gone away. They were a temporary neccessity.

What has Bustamente promised us? At least an $8 billion dollar tax increase.

The vote comes down to a simple question. Do you want to pay $8 billion more in taxes or have a governor who will cut spending. Bustamente will do the former and Arnold the later. Take your pick.

[Two-Bits]

He may have 30% because of "star" power but for how long.
It is amazing his trainers will not let him speak unless he has been coached and arranged. WHY?? Can't the man speak for himself? Again, how can a man who has hardly lived in the State, has hardly voted in any election be taken seriously? If he has not taken his right to vote seriously, why in the world would I give my vote to him?
POLITICS IS WHAT HAS GOTTEN THIS COUNTRY IN TROUBLE! The old mantra from the Liberal Handbook, win at any cost.
NO THANK YOU!
I will only vote for the one who can truly pull this State out of the deep crap that it is in.

[ARCADIA]

Let McClintock debate Arnold in September. If he falls on his face then, he can withdraw.

If Arnold falls on his face, he can withdraw.

If either one of then fall on their face then they both lose. There are alot of horses in this race. The last thing you want to show is a weak or inconsistent republican strategy.

[B Knotts]

Schwarzenegger is the Perot in this race.

[B Knotts]

If you had head-to-head, Bustamante vs. McClintock in a special election, and furthermore, a recall election of a Democrat. McClintock wins by 10% or more. You have to look at turnout by party and at voter motivation. Republicans will turnout at a much higher level than Democrats in this election.

[Two-Bits]

Oh, and by the way, at this point, I couldn't give a rats bum about Clinton and impeachement.

The above was your words not mind. You are the one who did not give a rats bum about Clinton and the impeachment. As I stated if maybe we did give a rats bum about the impeachment, this Country would have been better off. We reap what we sow when we elect idiots to office! Clinton, Davis, Feinstein, Boxer are perfect examples and you want to elect another one..... Go Figure.

Again my question to you? Why would I vote for someone who did not have the time or effort to vote in numberous elections himself?

You also mention Reagan, Cheney and Gringich. Well I do not recall any of their positions to be left of center.

The Democratic Party became what they are now (Socialists) by compromising what their party stood for. Are we to do the same? Do you not believe firmly in the conservative principles that it would be better to compromise?

9/11 being thrown in your face. I do not think so. Every Action has consequences and we saw that with 9/11.

If you would prefer to compromise your principles to just elect someone who may or may not uphold what you believe in? Go for it. I on the other hand will not.