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(San Francisco) Castro man arrested in sex sting (SF HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILE CAUGHT!)
San Francisco Examiner ^ | 8/22/03 | J.K. Dineen

Posted on 08/22/2003 9:04:58 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband

Castro man arrested in sex sting



J.K. Dineen
Of The Examiner Staff

Published on Friday, August 22, 2003



A Castro real estate broker who allegedly trolled the Internet for boys to have sex was busted in a sting operation Wednesday when he showed up for an encounter with a 13-year-old boy he had met in a chat room.

Steven Glidden, 39, was the target of a five-month investigation. He was arrested on Balboa Street at 10:30 a.m. The suspect had arranged the rendezvous on the community web site www.craigslist.com , cops said.

Instead of a boy on summer vacation, cops from the department's Internet Crimes Against Children unit met Glidden.

He was charged with one count of attempted lewd conduct with a child under 14, said PD spokesman Dewayne Tully.

Glidden worked as a real estate broker for Prudential. On his Web site, he states: "My business approach emphasizes lasting relationships based on commitment and trust. Clients also appreciate my down-to-earth style, which gives them a high degree of confidence and comfort."


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KEYWORDS: captured; homosexualagenda; internet; pedophile; prisoners; sanfrancisco
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To: airedale
By using the term pedophile or pedophilia in most of these cases it allows people to trot out studies that say that pedophilia is the same or less frequent in gay men than it is in straight men which may be true however it’s a straw man when your dealing with kids at or above the age of puberty. The media is complicit in this by misusing the words as well. There is a clinical word for those that like children that are pubescent and post pubescent but I can’t think of it right now.

The word is pederast. Means an adult male who desires to have sex with or does have sex with adolescent boys. Common among homosexuals, in their literature, in their classified ads, in their "vacations" to Thailand and the Philippines, etc. Nauseating.

Remember a movie a few years ago (of course, I never saw it, just read about it) called something like "Soldier's Story" or something? It was called LOVE STORY in the movie ads in SF. A LOVE STORY between a man in his 20's and a 12 year old boy who he seduced. Homos try to pretend that they are not fixated on young boys but they are, en masse.

21 posted on 08/23/2003 8:11:37 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Wondervixen
WRONG IS WRONG and Criminals Need To Be Made To PAY!!!

Anyone who molests or rapes or seduces a child - including adolescents - should be executed. And not 20 years later after appeals and millions of $.

22 posted on 08/23/2003 8:14:52 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
These sickos deserve the death penalty.
23 posted on 08/23/2003 8:32:26 AM PDT by Dec31,1999 (It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.)
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To: airedale
* red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert * red alert *

By using the term pedophile or pedophilia in most of these cases it allows people to trot out studies that say that pedophilia is the same or less frequent in gay men than it is in straight men which may be true however it’s a straw man when your dealing with kids at or above the age of puberty. The media is complicit in this by misusing the words as well. There is a clinical word for those that like children that are pubescent and post pubescent but I can’t think of it right now.

I understand what you're trying to say here, but with regard to this one statement, please understand one thing.  People buy into a pile of propaganda when they accept what you have here.  When a man molests a young boy, it is a homosexual act.  It is NOT a heterosexual act.  The man is therefore acting out latent homosexual tendencies, not the stirings of herterosexuality.

This man may have conducted himself as a heterosexual for a long time, but inside had yearnings in the other direction.  Perhaps he would one day leave his family like many do and take up the homosexual lifestyle, perhaps not.  But he is not a card carrying heterosexual if he has engaged in this activity.

Something drives this type of man to do what it is he does.  Infactuation with the female of the species isn't that driving force.

24 posted on 08/23/2003 8:35:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; EdReform
WEBSITE FOR LESBIANS! Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance (CNSNews.com) -

At the website Girl-Love Garden, pedophiles are on a "quest" for social acceptance of their sexual preferences and "the emancipation of girls of all ages and 'girl love,' in general."

As part of the website, the GirlChat Committee notes that "true emancipation" begins "neither in the polls nor in the world's courtrooms," but "in a child's sublime assent to becoming self actualized with the keen-eyed help of a loving mentor (gardener) who is willing to carefully fertilize and tend to the growth of the emotions, spirit and intellectual flora of the garden of a child's soul - in comparison with which everything else is small.

"We as girl lovers believe that statement to be axiomatic," the committee continues in its mission statement on the website. "Equally as axiomatic, perhaps, is the view that adults who are naturally, sensuously attracted to little girls and blossoming young women, in a similar vein, will achieve full emancipation only by clothing their souls with a childlike personality and agreeing to 'play safe' with each other and the good earth by consensus - as opposed to authoritarian decree."

Here visitors find "an oasis of shade" among the "refreshing waters of reason" where they are invited to "drink deeply of the exquisite delights to be found herein by Girl Lovers everywhere."

But "boylovers" need not feel left out. At Free Spirits, they learn that "boylovers have not chosen of their free will to become so."

"It is an attraction most discover within themselves at a very early age," the site explains. "Through no action of their own, they find themselves considered horrible and vile. Most people who are attracted to minors try to live good lives but find no encouragement from a society and a press that labels all people with that attraction, whatever they do or don't do, as evil monsters."

Developers of "BoyChat," the chat room at Free Spirits, admit it "is not a board in which well-meaning social workers firmly guide people the way they think they ought to go." BoyChat "is run by boylovers for boylovers. It encourages its posters to work freely through their own issues and questions."

Girl-Love Garden's GirlChat claims to be "committed to working vigorously to build our resource into a multi-lingual celebration of the exquisite delights of young girls and teenage women, and to further human rights and equality for all persons regardless of race, creed, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability or age."

The operators of both the Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden websites are free to express their views because of the anonymity of the Internet. There are many other online sites catering to "MAAs" (Minor-Attracted Adults, which some pedophiles prefer to call themselves) and claiming to advocate for the civil rights and acceptance of "the most underserved and misunderstood sexual minority remaining in today's human society," according to the Free Spirits mission statement.

Along with chat rooms, these sites include members' galleries where visitors may "Peruse a delightful section of members' Web Pages that provides personal, historical and literary insights for Girl Lovers - as well as a selection of wonderfully expressive poetry," a "Close Encounters Digest" - "a message board where both people who are attracted to boys and/or girls significantly younger than themselves and people who do not share that attraction could come to discuss all of the various issues related to emotional, romantic and sexual relationships between boys or girls and older people."

According to Barry Maddox, spokesperson for the FBI's Baltimore, Md., office, the sites are "totally legal." Maddox told CNSNews.com the sites come close to breaking the law but do not break it.

"They've done their homework," Maddox said.

Pornographic images, literature or any other sexually explicit content are nowhere to be found on these sites.
"Girl Moments," or stories describing an encounter with a female adolescent that are "tasteful," "well written and that are couched from a view that highlights friendships or other light-hearted encounters," are welcome at Girl-Love Garden, according to its frequently asked questions (FAQ) section. But it warns visitors not to "include details that evoke a prurient interest in sexual relations.

"Written materials that appear erotic or that advocate or counsel engaging in sexual activity with a minor constitutes a very serious offence" under the criminal codes of Canada, the U.S. and the United Kingdom, the FAQ warns, adding that "your material must be in full compliance with these laws so that when viewed with a prejudicial eye, they could not be seen as openly advocating, counseling, inducing, nor encouraging sexual intimacy with minors."

"We're only interested in those who act upon these impulses," Maddox said. While legal, he added, the sites "do make me sick to my stomach."

Ruben Rodriguez, director of the Exploited Children Unit at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, told CNSNews.com that while he "loves" the Internet, sites like Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden "have turned sections of it into a sewer."

"Many of these pedophiles act out on their impulses," Rodriguez said. "These kinds of sites are not something I would welcome."

Rodriguez said all the disclaimers and attempts at de-stigmatizing the "deviant sexual behavior" of pedophiles online are "just excuses" for them to "sit in front of a monitor and masturbate." He expressed "disgust" at the notion of society accepting pedophiles as another minority group.

"I see us sometimes going down a different path," Rodriguez said. "I don't see it getting better, I see it getting worse...going in a direction sometimes that just drives me crazy."

Some MAAs claiming to be Christians say they have found comfort at a website called Philia (http://phila.ws), "which provides news and resources to religious support groups for adults who are attracted to minors." Philia, along with the Christian Boylove Forum (CBLF), are for those who "find themselves in the position of having no one to turn to who shares their faith as well as their sexual feelings.

"This (online message) board attempts to fill that gap by providing a friendly, safe place where we can be honest about our feelings and struggles with sexuality and faith, without fear of destructive criticism or harassment," the CBLF site states. "This is a place for mutual encouragement, support and advice as we seek to deal with our sexuality and society's reaction to it in responsible and healthy ways, to live out our lives with integrity and to express our faith in a way that honors God and demonstrates the love of Jesus Christ to all people."

Both sites are run by "Bach" - the screen name used to protect his identity - a boylover who related to CNSNews.com vie e-mail that he has never acted upon his feelings and that he found support through a Christian service agency with which he volunteered.

"I am in a committed relationship with another man and have found that I am able to gain some satisfaction with this compromise," Bach wrote. "We discussed the fact that many message boards didn't allow for a Christian boylover to explore his faith in the context of his sexuality. We were often confronted with boylovers who had a strong hatred for the church, and we were constantly defending ourselves. This was the impetus to form the Christian Boylove Forum."

From CBLF sprung "Christian Consultations," "an annual gathering to bring together Christians (and some non-Christians) who are willing to enter into dialogue about adult attraction to minors," according to the Philia website.

"We have had involvement at the Christian Consultation from various pastors, Christian service workers, members of...Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Persons," Bach stated in the e-mail to CNSNews.com. "The goal of these encounters was to provide a non-threatening place for dialogue ...to help break isolation and fear.

"I would hope that Christians could come to accept that minor-attracted adults are not monsters, not sex maniacs, not uncontrolled freaks, but folks who have to live their lives with a desire that is demonized by society and the media to an extent that they are fearful to speak of it to anyone," Bach explained.

Julie Posey, a self-described "cyber-crime fighter" runs the website Pedowatch.org. Posey's website claims that "since 1996, she has passed on hundreds of tips to law enforcement involving child sexual predators who use the Internet as a tool to gain access to children who are later sexually assaulted and in rare instances murdered."

Posey is also the author of They Call Me Kendra, which Pedowatch.org describes as an autobiography of "her life experiences as a sexually abused child and tells how she later became one of the nation's leading experts on child sexual predators."

Kendra was the onscreen name Posey used to trap sexual predators online. She told CNSNews.com that Christian Consultation sounded a lot like prison ministers who work with convicted pedophiles.

"They go into prisons and try to help the families," Posey said. "They say, 'Oh, what your loved one did isn't so wrong...he has a love for boys,' and they try to get them (the family) to accept it. But they're trying to get all of society to just accept it, and it's unacceptable to me."

Posey said sites like Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden are "just working to make their stories sound good.

"I read the North American Man Boy Lovers Association's manifesto one time, and they were like 'sex is actually good for kids,'...well, I can tell you it's not," Posey said. "If society doesn't get a grip right now - and even right now it's going to be difficult, they are definitely going to have the same rights that we have."

25 posted on 08/23/2003 8:35:45 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: GrandMoM
According to Barry Maddox, spokesperson for the FBI's Baltimore, Md., office, the sites are "totally legal." Maddox told CNSNews.com the sites come close to breaking the law but do not break it.

If this crap is legal, then some laws need to be changed. Soon. NAMBLA should be outlawed, and its card carrying memebers and those who write and distribute their evil message should be beaten. Public beatings are the only solution.

Thanks for the informative but very disgusting article, GrandMom! I am nauseated by this exploitation of children, ruins their lives very often. The slippery slide has turned into a screaming nosedive. I keep thinking - it CAN'T get much worse, and then it gets worse.

26 posted on 08/23/2003 8:51:28 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Homosexual Serial Killers

Homosexual Serial Killers Gilles de Rais 300+ 1430s France

Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"

Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients

Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia

Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"

John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago

Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood; "Trash Bag Killer"

David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood

Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement

Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"

Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta

Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky

Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s

Norman Afzal Simons 21 (est.) 1986-1994 Capetown, South Africa victims were mixed-race boys; believed to be the "Station Strangler"

Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"

Carl Panzram 21 1910-1930 Warren, Minnesota USA, West Africa

Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana

Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee and Chicago cannibal

Robert Berdella ? until 1988 Kansas City Kansas

Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K.

Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Downey, Orange County, Calif.

Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S.

Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas

Bruce Lee 12 1980 England (NOT the famous actor.) Killed victims by arson.

Johannes Mashiane 12 until 1989 South Africa "The Beast of Atteridgeville"

Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles

Thomas Quick 10+ Sweden Started killing when he was 14 years old.

Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago married, bisexual

Peter Kurten 8+ 1905-1921 Germany "The Vampire of Dusseldorf"

Alton Coleman 8 1984 Midwestern U.S.

Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico

Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico

David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City NY

Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin

Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City NY

Albert Fish ? until 1936 USA child molester and canibal

Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina

Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana

Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans

Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace

Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London

Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales

Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washington, Oregon

David P. Brown (a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana victims were young boys

Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice


Serial Killers who were Lesbians


Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico

Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"

Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"

Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients

Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients


Serial killers are nearly always men (93%). Furthermore, of the relatively few female serial killers, one third of them worked in partnership with males. In the United States, serial killers are predominantly white. This makes sense statistically, because about 80% of the population is white. Whites, however, are over-represented among serial killers. Although blacks are over-represented among the persons convicted of murder in general, they are under-represented among serial killers. Asians are also under-represented; Asian serial-killers are extremely rare in the United States. Some homosexual serial killers were openly gay or lesbian. Some were closeted homosexuals. Many of the most famous gay serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally. Homosexual serial killers have most frequently chosen young boys or gay men as their victims, although some have victimized females as well. Most of the killers have raped their victims either before or after killing them, although in some cases they have killed after consensual homosexual sex. There have been heterosexual serial killers who have targeted gay victims (e.g., Colin Ireland), but this is very rare. But more importantly, none of the serial killers listed here represent typical homosexuals, who, like the general population, are almost never involved in violent crime. The exact nature of each individual's feelings, attitudes, and behavior with regards to sex is unique, in the general population as well as among serial killers. Legally, all or nearly all of the homosexual serial killers on this list would be considered sexual deviants because of the extreme and violent nature of their acts -- not simply because of their homosexual orientation.

27 posted on 08/23/2003 8:55:56 AM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: pram
Thanks for the informative but very disgusting article, GrandMom....you know pram, I've had this article saved for quite sometime, at least a year, and while I cannot find the web-site Love-Garden any longer, I am sure many others are out there! It is just so scary how protected the evil ones are, and our children are not!!!!!!!

What is more worriesome is the " I haven't got time" attitude my parents have today.

I just want to grab them and shake them while yelling; "YOU HAVEN'T GOT TIME TO SAVE YOUR OWN CHILDREN FROM THIS VILE SCUM!!!!!!!!!"

28 posted on 08/23/2003 9:10:44 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: airedale
There is a clinical word for those that like children that are pubescent and
post-pubescent but I can’t think of it right now.


Ephebophilia (IIRC)
29 posted on 08/23/2003 9:14:19 AM PDT by VOA
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To: JesseHousman
Violence and Homosexuality
By Paul Cameron, Ph. D.

Dr. Cameron is Chariman of the Family Research Institute of Colorado Springs, Colorado USA.
Click here for more information about this organization.
You may contact him at:
Family Research Institute,
PO Box 62640, Colorado Springs, CO 80962 USA.
Phone number: (303) 681-3113.

In 1992 two Jeffersonville, Indiana lesbians, aged 17 and 16, abducted a 12-year-old girl whom they accused of trying to "steal a girlfriend." The little girl was pushed into the trunk of a car, stabbed repeatedly, and beaten with a heavy metal bar. While still struggling, they poured gasoline on her and set her ablaze. Later that year a Fort Lauderdale, Florida 14-year-old was convicted of first-degree murder for helping to kill his 40-year-old father. The father "was stabbed 45 times and beaten so badly with an iron skillet that the skillet shattered." The boy confessed that he helped his father’s former homosexual lover and roommate kill him so he and the 31-year-old "could live together."

These murders fit traditional psychiatric opinion: excessive violence is naturally associated with other forms of social pathology. From this perspective, those who rebel against society’s norms – homosexuals, prostitutes, alcoholics, etc. – are more apt to be violent also. Gay leaders reply that they are not pathological, rebellious, or sexually deviant. They contend that gays are gentle, loving people and that the violence they experience proves that they need special ‘hate crime’ laws to protect them from non-homosexual ‘gay bashers.’

Who’s right? Does the excess of violence naturally well up from within a pathological gay subculture or do outsiders direct it toward homosexuals? Keeping in mind that only about 2%—3% of adults are homosexual or bisexual, (1) let's examine varieties of violence.

Murder and Mass Murder

Although the total number of victims dispatched by a given killer is often in doubt, (e.g., homosexual Henry Lucas claimed that he killed 350), it appears that the modern world record for serial killing is held by a Russian homosexual, Andrei Chikatilo, who was convicted in 1992 of raping, murdering and eating parts of at least 21 boys, 17 women and 14 girls. The pathology of eating one’s sexual victims also characterized Milwaukee's Jeffrey Dahmer in 1992. He not only killed 17 young men and boys, but cooked and ate their body parts.

The top six U.S. male serial killers were all gay:

• Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky;
• John Wayne Gacy raped and killed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and in his yard;
• Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after sex and leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways;
• Bruce Davis molested and killed 27 young men and boys in Illinois;
• A gay sex-murder-torture ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to their grave; and
• Juan Corona was convicted of murdering 25 migrant workers (he "made love" with their corpses).
Lesbian Aileen Wuornos laid claim in 1992 to "worst female killer" with at least 7 middle-aged male victims. She singlehandedly topped the lesbian nurse team of Catherine Wood and Gwen Graham, who had killed 6 convalescent patients in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

The association between serial murder and homosexuality isn’t recent. Two gays compete for the spot of "world’s worst murderer." During the Nazi reign of terror, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene strangled, crushed, and gnawed boys and young men to death while he raped them. Though his grand total is uncertain, he often murdered as many as 100 a day. Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard) brutally destroyed the lives of 800 boys. Each lad was lured to his home, bathed and fed. Just as the poor boy thought "this is my lucky day," he was raped, then killed by being ripped or cut apart and either burned or eaten.

A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that 19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals.

(2) Though probably less than a majority of mass murderers are homosexual, given that no more than 3% of the populace is gay, homosexual murderers show up much more frequently than one would expect (even Richard Speck engaged in homosexuality). Along with serial murder, there appears to be a connection between homosexuality and murder. Evidence from before the gay rights movement is limited. Of 444 homicides in one jurisdiction from 1955-1973, investigators noted 5 clear "sexual motivation" murders. Three of the 5 involved homosexuality and 2 involved heterosexuality.

(3) Probing more deeply into the connection between murder and homosexuality, Jim Warren, who worked as a counselor at the Washington State Corrections Center, did the intake interview for almost all the younger murderers (i.e., under age 36) in the state of Washington from 1971-82 (during the growth of the gay rights movement). He was "probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files." Warren testified (4) that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases.

Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, "about 50% of the time" it was also associated with homosexuality. Typically, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Before the morning, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead.

Violent Sexual Practices

A substantial minority of homosexuals (between 22% (5) to 37% (6,7) ) indulge in painful or violent sex (e.g., bondage and discipline [B/D], where the partner is physically restrained and mildly tortured, or sadomasochism [S/M], where partners are tortured or hurt during sex). Even in the 1940s, psychiatrist David Abrahamsen (8) noted, "It is well known that homosexual inclinations may be accompanied by sadistic or masochistic tendencies.... These perversions play a great part in many sexual offenses and in many cases of murder." In a national survey of random samples of homosexuals and heterosexuals, (7) 32% of those males who called themselves homosexual or bisexual versus 5% of heterosexual males reported having engaged in sadomasochism; 17% of lesbians versus 4% of heterosexual women also admitted to S/M. Likewise, gays and lesbians were about four times more apt to engage in bondage than were heterosexuals.

• Homosexual books and magazines celebrate the "fun" of violent sex. For instance, a Denver gay columnist (the "leathersex fairy"), told his readers how to strangle and flog one’s partner during sex. He also extolled the practice of "hanging from a tree by meat hooks through the pectoral muscles" and described "guys who like to have burning cigars, cigarettes, or matches held near or pressed into their skin." (9) Likewise, national and international gay tour books matter-of-factly list places where sadomasochistic sex can be obtained. (10)

• In 1993, London gays raised £100,000 to appeal a conviction in which the judge ruled that "sex is no excuse for violence.... Pleasure derived from the infliction of pain is an evil thing." The crime? "Nailing a foreskin and scrotum to a board" and "pouring hot wax in a urethra."

(11) • The 1980 CBS-TV documentary, Gay Power, Gay Politics reported that about 10% of the accidental deaths among young men in San Francisco resulted from sadomasochistic sex gone awry.

Deliberately Infecting Others During Sex

Gay activists often argue that what consenting adults do in private is nobody else’s business. However, gays have sex with so many different partners (5,6,7) that they increase their risk of getting or transmitting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Indeed, homosexuals are considerably more apt to get STDs than are non-homosexuals.

(12) Most who get an STD decide that they will do all in their power not to infect others. But others – an important minority – decide that they will make their partners suffer as much as they have. As Mirko Grmek (13) noted "every historian of disease knows that such an attitude of vengeance, or at least of recklessness, had contributed in other times to the spread of tuberculosis and syphilis." Limited evidence suggests that, compared to heterosexuals, homosexuals are more apt to harm their sexual partners deliberately. The only comparative study (5,9) on this issue found that about 1% of male and female heterosexuals compared to 7% of gays and 3% of lesbians admitted to deliberately passing on STDs that they had acquired.

When the disease is AIDS, the personal and social costs of deliberate infection are exceptionally high. Several examples of homosexuals who were deliberate spreaders of AIDS have been documented, (13) but the most notorious is that of "patient zero," the Canadian flight attendant who, until his death at age 32, shared his body and infection with 250 men every year. From the late 1970s through the early 1980s he was personally responsible for at least 40 of the first 248 American cases of AIDS and told public health officials in San Francisco it "was nobody else’s business but his own."

There also appears to be a connection between the practice of violent sex and one’s willingness to deliberately infect someone else. Dividing our random national sample (7,12) into those with no interest in homosexual activity (non-H) and those with at least some homosexual interest (H) – and combining males and females – we found that 4.0% of the non-Hs vs 21.8% of those with at least some homosexual interest said that they had participated in sadomasochism (S/M); 7.8% of the non-Hs admitted to bondage (B/D) vs 27.5% of the Hs. Further, those who had engaged in violent sex of either type were twice as likely to have deliberately attempted to infect a partner than those without such violent experience .

In 1992 three London STD clinics reported that almost half of their homosexual patients who knew they were infected with HIV had then gotten rectal gonorrhoea. (14) These gays were not permitting their deadly infection to spoil their sexual fun. By 1993 over 100,000 U.S. gays had died of AIDS and tens of thousands had died of hepatitis B. Most of these had been infected, many deliberately or carelessly, by other homosexuals.

Homosexual Rape

The National Crime Survey (15) reported that about 1 of every 10,000 males over the age of 11 is raped each year (vs 13 of every 10,000 females) – that is, about 7% of rapes are homosexual. In two jurisdictions, Columbia, SC (16) and Memphis, TN, (17) males accounted for 5.7% of the victims of rape reported to authorities – in only one instance was the assailant a woman.

Along with the rise of the gay rights movement, homosexual rape of men appears to have increased in the past few decades. (5,15,16) Homosexual rape is twice as common in urban areas where gays congregate than in suburban or rural areas. (15) It may also be more common where the gay subculture is accepted: a 1970 study in San Francisco found that 9% of male heterosexuals and 24% of gays; 2% of female heterosexuals and 11% of lesbians reported having been homosexually raped. (18) In our 1983 national urban survey (which did not include San Francisco), 1.3% of heterosexual men vs 12.5% of gay men and 0.6% of heterosexual women vs 8.6% of lesbians reported having been homosexually raped.

More alarmingly, between 15% to 40% of statutory rape (child molestation) involves homosexuality. (19) In one study, 25% of white gays (18) admitted to sex with boys 16 or younger when they were aged 21 or older.

Rape at any age is violent and emotionally devastating. But it can also edge victims toward homosexuality. In our national study, almost half the lesbians said they had been heterosexually raped – perhaps gravitating to homosexuality because of the experience. Males often react differently. Thus the Masters and Johnson Institute reported that a "25-year-old man had had his first sexual experience when he was 13 years old. It was arranged by his lesbian mother with an older gay man. After that episode, his imagery and interpersonal sexual experience were exclusively homosexual." (20) Likewise, "Mr. K, age 22, felt that his change in sexual preference was related to his having been raped by two men.... After the assault he experienced sexual identity confusion and began engaging voluntarily in homosexual activity. When he was seen for evaluation he labeled himself as openly homosexual."

Impact of Violence On The Homosexual Lifespan

A study of 6,714 obituaries (22) in gay newspapers across the U.S. revealed that 3% of 6,574 gays and 20% of 140 lesbians had died violently:

• 1.4% of gays and 7% of lesbians were murdered (rates over a hundred times those of non-gays);

• 0.6% of gays and 5.7% of lesbians committed suicide (rates dozens of times those of non-gays); and

• 0.6% of gays and 4.3% of lesbians died in motor vehicle accidents (over 17 times the rate of non-gays)

These events, coupled with various STDs (especially AIDS) gotten from other gays, resulted in a median age of death of 40 among gays and a median age of death of 45 among lesbians. In the same study, comparison samples of married men had a median age of death of 75 and married women a median age of death of 79. For divorced or single persons the median age of death was 57 for men and 71 for women.

Conclusion

The ‘hate crimes’ gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks. The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the U.S. in all of 1991. Only one was "confirmed" for Washington, D.C. – yet D.C. gay activists claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these "crimes" consisted of "verbal harassment."

In line with traditional psychiatric opinion, violence goes hand-in-hand with the ‘gay’ lifestyle. Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture. Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual. While violence toward homosexuals is deplorable, most violence involving gays is self-induced (and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without).

30 posted on 08/23/2003 9:36:40 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: GrandMoM
I think there's a female pederasty homosexual site called "Butterfly Kisses" or something - I've seen quotes from it on FR. Also, you ever heard about the revolting so-called "theater art" (or whatever they call it) "Vagina Monologues"? I read that there's a big piece in it about a 12 year old girl seduced by an older woman. And supposedly people love this thing! The fact that people aren't outraged is testimony to the deluding power. People are metaphorically drinking poison, while smacking their lips and criticizing those who warn them of the danger.
31 posted on 08/23/2003 7:01:17 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: GrandMoM
Very useful article relating violence and homosexuality. It used to be common knowledge that the two were connected. And this understanding is not limited to western culture. My husband has studied martial arts on and off for years, and the philosophy of Chinese Taoism asserts that same sex acts create emotional and mental imbalances, leading to aggression, anger and violence - even psychosis. And the ancient healing science of Inida - Ayurveda - says that same sex acts also cause physical, mental and emotional disease. In fact, it also says that masturbation, oral and anal sex as well as any kind of perverted or excessive sex are all unhealthy and prone to cause disease and serious mental aberration.
32 posted on 08/23/2003 7:17:06 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: CFC__VRWC
You are correct it is gone from the source already
33 posted on 08/23/2003 7:28:11 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well if your husband was caught doing stuff he had no right doing then either
He is guilty himself,guilty by association
Or in the wrong place at the wrong time
But one way or another he did something
Cause he didnt get arrested for nothing,
But maybe he had been a pedophile for
How ever long & you just didnt know
Or see whatever signs but he is a pedophile that
Shouldnt be anywhere near any kids at all
For the rest of his life!!
Im not saying he is or he isnt cause I
Dont know the man but obviously he is
One or he,wouldnt be charged as one.


35 posted on 06/07/2013 5:31:10 AM PDT by Boomer77
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To: I_Love_My_Husband

You may love your husband but he
Loves having sexual acts with kids
For Heavens Sake!!
No that your finding out all the truth
You have never known,cause these
Children arent just gonna pick him
Out of a line up & say “Yeah thats him!”
If he hasnt done anything wrong & hes
A real estate broker to?!
Lady are you seriously out of your rabbit ass mind?!
I pray to God there are no children living
In your house with him living there!!

I apologize everyone BUT HERES WHAT I HONEST TO GOD WISH THAT COULD HAPPEN TO ALL THESE PEDOPHILES THAT LIVE ON GODS GREEN EARTH:
“I wish that all proven guilty pedophiles
Could not only be Casterated but all ten
Fingers cut to the nubs so they can in no
Way,shape,form or fashion ever,ever
Molest another child of any age again
In their lives!!”


36 posted on 06/07/2013 5:31:10 AM PDT by Boomer77
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To: I_Love_My_Husband

I truly & honestly do apologize but:”
LADY,( I love my husband)
Can I please,please adk a real serious
Question?
“HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU LOVE ANYONE THAT HAS SEXUAL ACTIVITY
WITH CHILDREN,I MEAN YOUR NOT MM. DUMB, YOUR NOT BLIND!”mm.
There will never,ever be that much love
In this world no matter what,my husband or not there
Is absolutely no reason at all for anyone mm. to have
Sex with kids,theres way to many prostitues out on
The streets for any physco path to have sex with kids,
Theres no Hod Hambed reason for it!!
None what so ever!!


37 posted on 06/07/2013 5:31:10 AM PDT by Boomer77
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To: DoughtyOne

Well if your husband was caught doing stuff he had no right doing then either
He is guilty himself,guilty by association
Or in the wrong place at the wrong time
But one way or another he did something
Cause he didnt get arrested for nothing,
But maybe he had been a pedophile for
How ever long & you just didnt know
Or see whatever signs but he is a pedophile that
Shouldnt be anywhere near any kids at all
For the rest of his life!!
Im not saying he is or he isnt cause I
Dont know the man but obviously he is
One or he,wouldnt be charged as one.


38 posted on 06/07/2013 5:31:10 AM PDT by Boomer77
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To: Boomer77

I was being sarcastic. This has NAMBLA written all over it, from my perspective. That’s just what pops into my head. Of course I have no way of knowing what this guy was actually involved in across the board.


39 posted on 06/07/2013 11:09:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied and four men died after he went to hide...)
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