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How far can these environmental terrorists go before our gov't prosecutes these criminals for this conduct?

Burning down businesses, vandalizing vehicles for sale, and threatening honest people is not tolerable by our barometer.

While it is tolerable to be "compassionate" towards our environmental issues, it is NOT tolerable to permit this form of domestic terrorism.

This is NOT civil disobedience. There is nothing "civil" is destroying several million dollars of someone else's property.

1 posted on 08/22/2003 6:42:38 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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Time to do some very public raids on these eco-terrorists.
2 posted on 08/22/2003 6:44:53 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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This is NOT civil disobedience. There is nothing "civil" is destroying several million dollars of someone else's property.

Some idiot in Oregon, I do believe, did this to SUVs at a dealership. He ended up being sent to prison for 22 years. His supporters (the ALF/ELF types) screamed that the judge just didn't understand that this was "protest," not criminal. I think the judge understood perfectly well what this was all about.

3 posted on 08/22/2003 6:45:12 AM PDT by Catspaw
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I would like to infiltrate one of these groups.

In fact, I think I will.

Then get them all busted.

4 posted on 08/22/2003 6:45:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I have decided that I will follow the free trade policy of the most recent person who posts to me.)
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To: bonesmccoy
Based on their satisfaction ratings and testimonials of H2 owners, are we sure it wasn't a group of disgruntled H2 owners?
5 posted on 08/22/2003 6:47:12 AM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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How far can these environmental terrorists go before our gov't prosecutes these criminals for this conduct?

Actually, its the Patriot Act that's allowing Ashcroft more powers in going after these idiots. And its the same idiots who are protesting the Patriot Act.

Ship 'em all to Antarctica. Let them find their own way back.

6 posted on 08/22/2003 6:47:20 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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If this is legimate protest, all ELF members cars should be spraypainted and their houses burned.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
8 posted on 08/22/2003 6:48:01 AM PDT by American in Israel (Dont you hate it when you forget to change your tag line?!)
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It is far past time these idiots are arrested and punished!

Talk about brainwashed!

9 posted on 08/22/2003 6:48:02 AM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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If they haven't already, any dealership that carries SUV's needs to start putting up cameras that they turn on at night. Keep them in a hidden location and aimed at the SUV's.
17 posted on 08/22/2003 6:52:05 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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ELF has attacked and vandalized my wife's place of business on more than one occasion. We should deal with them as we deal with other types of terrorists.
19 posted on 08/22/2003 6:53:25 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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The control centers for these Eco Terrorists is in Eugene and Portland, Oregon. These Eco Terrorists are heroes to the Rat Governors, now and the past one. http://www.stopecoviolence.com/index.htm


21 posted on 08/22/2003 6:55:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Remember what really happened to America and Americans on 9/11.)
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From KNBC-TV/DT:

26 posted on 08/22/2003 6:59:51 AM PDT by mhking
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How far can these environmental terrorists go before our gov't prosecutes these criminals for this conduct?

As far as they want. Ashcroft won't do a damn thing about them, just as we won't do a damn thing to defend our borders or anything to destroy the Palestinian Authority or bring down the Syrian government.

This "War on Terror" is a rhetorical one alone.

27 posted on 08/22/2003 7:00:17 AM PDT by montag813
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shoot to maim for life. no other way. take 'em down. eco terrorists
33 posted on 08/22/2003 7:08:10 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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Arsonist "Support Committees" Funded By PETA

Washington, DC - In the wake of this week’s congressional hearings on eco-terrorism, new evidence shows a close relationship between the animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) and the violent Earth Liberation Front (ELF). The FBI has labeled ELF as "the largest and most active U.S.-based terrorist group."

Richard Berman, Executive Director for the Center for Consumer Freedom, said the financial links between PETA and ELF are very disturbing. "An investigation of IRS documents shows that over the past 6 years PETA has given significant money to the legal support funds of criminals with close affiliations to both ELF and Animal Liberation Front (ALF)," Berman said. "More shocking is our most recent discovery of a direct donation to Earth Liberation Front from PETA in April 2001."

PETA’s 1995-2000 IRS tax filings show the following:

In FY2000, PETA gave a direct contribution of $1500 to the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) to "support their program activities."


In FY2000, PETA gave $5000 to the "Josh Harper Support Committee." Josh Harper is an ALF-affiliated criminal arrested numerous times and convicted for assaulting a police officer. In 1998, Harper told Eugene Weekly newspaper "we’re going to continue to be confrontational, we’re going to continue to be militant. If people see that as extreme, then so be it."


In FY1999, PETA gave $2,000 to David Wilson, a Utah-based animal-rights extremist who was then a national "spokesperson" for the ALF. In March of that year, Wilson bragged to Mother Jones magazine: "We started with animal rights, but we've expanded to wildlife actions like the [October 1998 ski resort arson] one in Vail. We're the ones bridging the environmental gap."


In FY1995, PETA gave a $45,200 contribution to the "support committee" of Rodney Coronado, a convicted arsonist who firebombed a research facility at Michigan State University. PETA also gave an unreturned $25,000 "loan" to Rodney Coronado’s father.


PETA has used their closely controlled Foundation to Support Animal Protection to launder over $500,000 in contributions to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, an organization whose president collaborates with a violent animal rights group known as Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty (SHAC). SHAC is a special-interest subset of ALF responsible for firebombings, property destruction, grand theft and assault.
"People are being deceived by PETA’s self-portrayal as a warm and cuddly animal rights organization," Berman said. "PETA should explain to their contributors why their money is being used to help finance domestic terrorism."

The Center for Consumer Freedom is a coalition of more than 30,000 restaurants and tavern operators working together to protect the public's right to a full menu of dining and entertainment choices, through education, training and public outreach. To learn more, visit www.consumerfreedom.com.

34 posted on 08/22/2003 7:08:19 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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"Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works."

— Ingrid Newkirk, President and Co-Founder of PETA
38 posted on 08/22/2003 7:09:37 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Treat these slugs like any other terrorists, shoot them.
39 posted on 08/22/2003 7:10:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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The sad facts are the those H2's put out less pollution per mile than any 15 year old car. I Don't see ELF members driving new cars, so they are part of the problem, not the solution.
41 posted on 08/22/2003 7:11:58 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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"I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997
43 posted on 08/22/2003 7:15:37 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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"If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."
-Ingrid Newkirk, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Am starting to think Sungirl was Ingrid.
45 posted on 08/22/2003 7:16:35 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Fire is a tool. Nothing does the amount of damage that fire can. Arson works. Make sure that all buildings or vehicles are free of creatures before lighting one single match. Arson should only be used when it can be guaranteed that the fire will not spread to the sheds the animals are in. -- (In the ALF publication "The Final Nail", under section entitled "Smashing the Furriers").
46 posted on 08/22/2003 7:18:43 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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