Skip to comments.
Slammer worm crashed Ohio nuke plant network (Still Think The Blackout Wasn't A Cyber Attack???)
SecurityFocus News ^
| Aug 19 2003
| Kevin Poulsen
Posted on 08/22/2003 2:01:06 AM PDT by RepublicanArmy
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-53 next last
I think someone's head at FirstEnergy Corp. should roll big time.
To: RepublicanArmy
MICROSOFT WORKING WITH THE FEDS, VIRUS ATTACKS MAY BE TERRORISM Posted by AnimalLover to prarie earth On News/Activism 08/22/2003 2:13 AM PDT #25 of 25
Maybe you might like to look this over?
To: RepublicanArmy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/968431/posts
Sorry, forgot the address!
To: RepublicanArmy
According to Time Magazine the CIA has not ruled out terrorism on the power grid.
To: prarie earth
I also think it was software failure, which only failed due to a worm/virus. (otherwise, it should have stopped the overload, cascading effect, and should have done its programmed warnings)
5
posted on
08/22/2003 2:39:06 AM PDT
by
bets
To: bets
Im amazed that this information has been held back this long.
To: prarie earth
It's these darned pc networks. If companies and utilities would have stuck w/mainframes and midranges, they wouldn't be in this cheesy, duct-taped, vulnerable, pc networked boat. (can you tell I don't like pc-based networks?)
7
posted on
08/22/2003 2:50:16 AM PDT
by
bets
To: bets
Yep, and how vulnerable are we still?
To: prarie earth
Forever vulnerable, as long as we have these pc-based networks supposedly protected by firewalls watching ports and bad OS software. This is because the software companies won't admit the vulnerabilities to the buyers AND the buyers (network "experts") won't admit to their bosses that they have holes in their systems. See?
9
posted on
08/22/2003 3:00:05 AM PDT
by
bets
To: bets
And the stuff was poorly written to begin with.
To: prarie earth
I remember about 13 yrs ago I sat in front of a Navy Admiral in his office in a Navy base, having flown there just to have him ask myself and two other software people ONE QUESTION: "Can a virus infect the system you're working on for us?"
Now mind you, this was 13 or so yrs ago, before viruses were well known or rampant. Anyway, we had the pleasure of without hesitation saying "no," because we're working on a mainframe system w/such and such an OS, and there are no viruses that can infect such a system. He asked us if we were sure. We looked him in the eye and said "yes. positive." and we left. That was pretty much our purpose for flying to his base - that one question which he wanted to ask us face to face.
Today systems are flimsy and pc-server based -- cheap alternatives to the real thing, chosen by people trying to save money and use lower salaried, less-experienced network people (vs. the higher paid mainframe/midrange experts). When it comes to such an important system, our power grid, there should be no such scrimping. Just like w/the Navy Admiral who took the safety of his men and resources seriously.
11
posted on
08/22/2003 3:10:36 AM PDT
by
bets
To: bets
Looks like the stuff is going to hit the proverbial fan pretty soon..
To: RepublicanArmy; FairOpinion; Pro-Bush; LindaSOG; Shermy; Sir Gawain; zoyd
August 19, 2003 No.553
Al-Qa'ida Claims Responsibility for Last Week's Blackout
Al-Qa'ida's Abu Hafs Brigades has claimed responsibility for "Operation Quick Lightning in the Land of the Tyrant of this Generation," referring to the blackout last week in the Northeast and Midwest United States. A communiqué by the Abu Hafs Brigades was published at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abubanan2/message/330. This is the third communiqué by the "Brigades" that is being published by the same web-group; in the first, they accepted responsibility for the downing of an airplane in Kenya. The second accepted responsibility for the Jakarta bombing of the Marriott hotel on August 5, 2003.
The new communiqué says that in compliance with the orders of Osama bin Laden to strike at the American economy, the Brigades struck two important electricity supply targets on the East coast. The Brigades say that they cannot reveal how they did it, because they will probably have to use the same method again soon. The communiqué also claimed that the operation was meant as a present for the Iraqi people.
The following are excerpts from a report by the London-based Arabic daily Al-Hayat about the communiqué: [1]
The Blackout was 'a Realization of bin Laden's Promise to Offer the Iraqi People a Present'
"A communiqué attributed to Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the power blackout that happened in the U.S. last Thursday, saying that the brigades of Abu Fahes Al Masri had hit two main power plants supplying the East of the U.S., as well as major industrial cities in the U.S. and Canada, 'its ally in the war against Islam (New York and Toronto) and their neighbors.'
"The communiqué assured that the operation 'was carried out on the orders of Osama bin Laden to hit the pillars of the U.S. economy,' as 'a realization of bin Laden's promise to offer the Iraqi people a present.'
'The Americans Lived a Black Day they will Never Forget'
"The statement, which Al-Hayat obtained from the website of the International Islamic Media Center, didn't specify the way the alleged sabotage was carried out. The communiqué read: 'let the criminal Bush and his gang know that the punishment is the result of the action, the soldiers of God cut the power on these cities, they darkened the lives of the Americans as these criminals blackened the lives of the Muslim people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. The Americans lived a black day they will never forget. They lived a day of terror and fear
a state of chaos and confusion where looting and pillaging rampaged the cities, just like the capital of the caliphate Baghdad, and Afghanistan and Palestine were. Let the American people take a sip from the same glass.'
'The U.S. will not Live in Peace until Our Conditions are Met'
"It added: 'we heard amazing statements made by the American and Canadian enemies which have nuclear physics universities and space agencies, that lightning hit and destroyed the two plants. And we are supposed to believe this nonsense. If the blackout occurred in one or two cities, their lie would have been credible. But the fact is that the blackout hit the entire East and part of Canada.'
"The communiqué continued: 'one of the benefits of this strike is that the U.S. will not live in peace until our conditions are met, such as releasing all the detainees including Sheikh Omar Abdulrahman, and getting out of the land of the Muslims, including Jerusalem and Kashmir.'
"The authors of the communiqué said that the strikes aimed at 'hitting the major pillar of the U.S. economy (the Stock Exchange)
[and] the UN, which is opposed to Islam, and is based in New York. It is a message to all the investors that the U.S. is no longer a safe country for their money, knowing that the U.S. economy greatly relies on the trust of the investor
'
'The Gift of Sheikh Osama bin Laden is on Its Way to the White House'
"The communiqué mentioned that some economists said the blackout in the U.S. and Canada would cost the U.S. Treasury no less than ten billion U.S. dollars and in order to 'break the hearts of U.S. officials, just know that the cost paid by the Moujahideen to sabotage the power plants was a mere seven thousand dollars. Die of sorrow!'
"The communiqué ended with: 'we tell the Muslims that this is not the awaited strike, but it is called the war of skirmishes (to drain the enemy), and that the American snakes are enormous and need to be consumed and weakened to be destroyed. We tell the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir that the gift of Sheikh Osama bin Laden is on its way to the White House; then the gift of Al Aqsa, and do we know what is the gift of Al Aqsa, where and when? The answer is what you are seeing!'
[1] Published in English on Dar Al-Hayat website, August 18, 2003,
http://english.daralhayat.com/arab_news/08-2003/Article-20030818-14bdd659-c0a8-01ed-0079-6e1c903b7552/story.html http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD55303
13
posted on
08/22/2003 3:41:56 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
To: AnimalLover
14
posted on
08/22/2003 3:45:11 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
To: RepublicanArmy
The obvious question here is this: Is Al Quida just claiming responsibility for something that happened, or could they really have caused it? Seems like the former would be the likely answer. Hard to believe that Al Quida has anyone with the savvy to put together and pull off an operation like this. Hate to underestimate my enemy, but really now!
To: RepublicanArmy
16
posted on
08/22/2003 5:12:36 AM PDT
by
Ed_in_NJ
To: RepublicanArmy
Mission-critical computers should never be connected to the internet.
If they need to communicate it should be through a separate, independent network which intersects the internet at no point.
--Boris
17
posted on
08/22/2003 8:29:14 AM PDT
by
boris
(Education is always painful; pain is always educational.)
To: RepublicanArmy
"
The Slammer attacks came after years of warnings about the vulnerability of power plants and electric distribution systems to cyber attack. A 1997 report by the Clinton White House's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee, which conducted a six-month investigation of power grid cybersecurity, described a national system controlled by Byzantine networks riddled with basic security holes, including widespread use of unsecured SCADA systems, and ample connections between control centers and utility company business networks. Nobody took it seriously, unfortunately.
What we are experiencing now is a real wake up call, or should be about cyberattacks. Just hope this is not a prelude/phase I to something worse.
Cyber-Attacks by Al Qaeda Feared. Terrorists at Threshold of Using Internet as Tool of Bloodshed, Experts Say -- June 27, 2002
To: FairOpinion; BOBTHENAILER; Coop; Angelus Errare; hchutch; Dog Gone; prairiebreeze; Mo1; Howlin; ...
Still think that blackout wasn't a cyber attack??
19
posted on
08/22/2003 10:22:47 AM PDT
by
Dog
(: "And good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing 'This'll be the day Saddam dies...'")
To: Joe Hadenuf; Shermy
Hey Joe check this out.
20
posted on
08/22/2003 10:24:43 AM PDT
by
Dog
(: "And good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing 'This'll be the day Saddam dies...'")
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-53 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson