Moore Vows to Continue Fight for Ten Commandments

CNSNews.com ^ | August 21, 2003 | Robert B. Bluey

[onedoug]

"...so I won't have to look at a Koran rock 20 years from now.

I believe that's exactly what you'll have to look at if we fail as fast as the only Judeo-Christian country in the world is even by this, being stripped away, bit by bit.

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

ACLU gets the rest?

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

Be sure to see - AMENDMENT ONE - FREEPER rwfromkansas

[shellylet]

That's the new math the public schools are teaching!!!

[qam1]

Those attacking Christianity sometimes point to the many religious wars and atrocities perpetrated in the name of Christ and the Church. They forget that not everyone self-labelled 'Christian' truly follows Christ. Also, that many times more people have been killed this century, most by their own governments, than in all religious conflicts, ever.1 And this slaughter happened because of philosophies openly hostile to biblical Christianity, and flowing directly from evolutionary belief. About 130 million (not including the hundreds of millions killed by abortion) were slaughtered this century in the name of atheism, whereas all those killed in 'the name of Christ' in all of recorded history was at most around 17 million. See James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe, What if Jesus had never been born? Thomas Nelson, Nashville, 1994. The blood-stained 'century of evolution'

Give me a break, Using your logic we can say Saddam was better than Christianity because he only killed 1 Million people.

Stalin Rejected Evolution and Hitler in Mein Kampf mentioned the creator over and over again while never mentioning the science of Evolution. So your Liberal like lies, History revisionism and character assassination doesn’t hold water and are best saved for the Evolution/Creationism threads in the Smoky Backroom.

But back to my original assertion

I wasn’t talking about people “USING” Christianity “For” evil, I was talking of people “OF” Christianity “That are” evil.

Like Moses.

Forget Religion for a second and forget which side has the “higher body count”, Murders are murders, I talking specifically about Moses. If we assume the biblical history is correct and Moses was actually a “Real” person who existed and he actually committed all the atrocities it says he did then why should we display anything this monster produced?

The rule actually is that when we remove God from the equation, when we act and live as if we have no one to answer to but ourselves, and if there is no God, then the rule of law is social Darwinism-- the strong rule the weak. We'll find that, quite to the contrary, it is not Christianity and the belief in the God of the Bible that results in carnage and genocide. But it's when people reject the God of the Bible that we are most vulnerable to those kinds of things that we see in history that are the radical and gross destruction of human lives. Stand to Reason Commentary - The Real Murderers: Atheism or ...

I hate to tell you but when I was 12 years old I actually read the bible and as they say “No book created more Atheist than the Bible” and I am sorry to disappoint you but I never robbed, raped or murdered anybody and over all I lived a good and moral life and despite your proclamations on how people need YOUR GOD and YOUR GOD ONLY to be good and moral most atheist are in fact good, moral people.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Excellent thread. Thank you.

Every American benefits from this nation having a Christian foundation. Every freedom-loving American benefits from having Christian neighbors. Christians have been feeding, healing, teaching, and protecting strangers - from the earliest monasteries that sheltered 'heathens' from barbarians at the gate - to the nurses who comfort the dying today. Cities grew around those early monasteries for a good reason. They were honorable men, courageous and generous - friends, then and now, in times of trouble.

If the left follows the EU to pagan narcissism, the weakest and the most innocent (or, as the opposition would say, "women and children"...) will be hurt the most. God, family, America - no more.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

How do you get from 620,000 to $1 billion?

The $5000 per day fine, doubles every week I believe. Thus the first week costs $35000, the 2nd week costs $70000, the 3rd week costs $140000, etc.

[bluecollarman]

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."


That is not a Quote from George Washington and you know it.
You are somewhat of a liar.

[bluecollarman]

George Washington does have a Quote about people that attribute that remark to him though. He objected to atheists using this quotation and called it

"a most flagrant misquotation for evil purposes."

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"states rights?
been there done that. won't be doing it again any time soon..."

Sounds like an indoctrinated northerner with no sense of history or respect for God.

[qam1]

The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people," and contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust" (Art. VI), and "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" (First Amendment). It doesn't say Freedom of religion but only if you rigorously follow one of our acceptable Christian religions.

The presidential oath of office, the only oath detailed in the Constitution does not contain the phrase "So help me God" or any requirement to swear on a bible. If we are a Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? I believe Teddy Roosevelt didn't say "So help me God", Was he somehow not really the President because he didn't?

The words "under God," did not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954 when Congress inserted them. Likewise "In God We Trust" was absent from paper currency before 1956. Yeah it appeared on some coins earlier but so did other phrases such as "Mind Your Business." The U.S. motto, chosen by John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson is E Pluribus Unum ("Of Many, One") celebrating plurality not theocracy.

But let's Flip it around

I keep hearing that this country is founded on Christian Principles but can someone please tell me where in the bible is there anything resembling our form of government with our liberties?

There are no Constitution Republics/Democracies in the Bible, The bible is full of kings and blood thirsty tyrants like Moses and Joshua. The closest thing to us was the Romans and according to the bible they were the bad guys

And it can be argued that the roots of our form of government only arose because the Black Plauge which decimated Europe broke the hold of the Church.

[harpo11]

"Rebellion to tyrants is
obedience to God."

July 8, 1776..."Benjamin Franklin's suggestion for a seal and motto, characterizing the spirit of this new nation..."America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations

[bluecollarman]

I'll see your Teddy and raise you one Abraham....

"We have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity...we have grown in wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God."

"We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace... and we have vainly imagined that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own."

"Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficent to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace."

"Too Proud to pray to the God who made us. It behooves us then too humble ourselves before the offended power to confess our national sins and to pray for clemency and forgiveness"

President Abraham Lincoln

[randita]

Those attacking Christianity sometimes point to the many religious wars and atrocities perpetrated in the name of Christ and the Church

And conveniently ignore the fact that we would have virtually no charities, hospitals and institutions of higher learning without Christians because Christians are the ones who founded those institutions and continue to fund them in large part.

How many atheist or agnostic charities, hospitals or universities can you name? Case closed.

[safisoft]

I lived a good and moral life

By whose standard? Saddam Hussein thinks he has lived a "good and moral" life. All the Islamofascists out there certainly believe they have lived "good and moral" lives. PLEASE give us the basis for this claim of yours.

Doesn't your religion teach you that "morality" is subjective? Besides, who says there EVEN IS such a thing as "good and moral"?

Next thing we know, you'll be claiming there is no such thing as absolutes... and your are absolutely sure of it.

[qam1]

By whose standard? Saddam Hussein thinks he has lived a "good and moral" life. All the Islamofascists out there certainly believe they have lived "good and moral" lives. PLEASE give us the basis for this claim of yours.

And so many Christians that burned people on the stake for believeing in such radical notions that the Earth goes around the sun also believed they lived a good and moral life

Again I never Robbed, Raped or murdered anyone (like many bibical "Heroes" not only did but it was condoned by God) and I have a good loving Relationship with my family. Why do I need your god to tell me that's good or bad. It's common sense.

[strela]

Ah, wakarimasu. Thanks - the "doubling" wasn't mentioned in the story.

[fightu4it]

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or to often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by christians;not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

Patrick Henry

[qam1]

And conveniently ignore the fact that we would have virtually no charities, hospitals and institutions of higher learning without Christians because Christians are the ones who founded those institutions and continue to fund them in large part. How many atheist or agnostic charities, hospitals or universities can you name? Case closed.

Give me a break. What? Now Atheist never donate to charity? There are many charities without religious purpose that atheists create and contribute to. I am sure many atheists contribute (Both Monetary and Time) to religious charities for the sake of the practical good they do.

It would seem kind of silly to build a hospital or a University just to say "I do not believe in God" that’s like holding a party to say "Today is not my birthday"

Actually, It seems kind of self-righteous and pety to use charity as an excuse to plug your religious beliefs and recute followers.

There isn't much difference between that the Liberals using Government programs to buy votes.

[bluecollarman]

Why do you not respond to my post #28?