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To: ClancyJ
"The government does not endorse any religion. They hopefully respect God."

If they are puting religious icons in government buildings theyare endorsing it over religions that are represented. By not having any religious icons they are respecting all religious thoughts and ideals.

"Why are you so afraid of any mention of God being seen? Could it be you are Muslim, atheist?"

I am not a muslim or atheist, if I was a muslim I would be afraid of people like you wanting to take away my freedom to practice a religion that you don't approve of.

"What we are fighting for - is the prevention of government, the ACLU and people like you taking away our religious freedom and telling us when, how, where to pray, how we can practice Christmas, Easter, what we can or cannot do at a school event."

I said this before and I'll say it again how is not having religious icons in government buildings taking away your right to practice your religious beliefs.

"We are sick and tired of the ACLU, atheists and the anti-God crowd destroying America and taking away any moral values and leaving us with a school system that is more damaging than helpful, a society rife with any vulgarity pushed in our face. We are sick of art paid for with tax dollars that seeks to mock our faith and mock our Lord."

First of all I do not believe you are the spokesperson for the religious right so you should be using the "I" not "WE". The reference that you make to the none religious and non christain people destroying america is the main point of not allow religious icons in government buildings. You are already showing your desire to make this country no longer religiously free. I wonder about people how fell they need the threat of eternal damnation to do what is right and civil. This tells me that if you didn't have religion that you would see no problem with murdering, raping and stealing for others, so yes I am glad you have your religion. I do the right things because I believe it is the right thing to do and I want to treated as good as I treat others. And as far as the government paying for art, well is a different subject, but I believe the government should be paying any art, art is personal. And if it wasn't for the ACLU you probably wouldn't even be allow to pratice religions at all.

"The lines are quickly being drawn that we will no longer tolerate the nonsense from the ACLU. It is coming to a head over this - but it is all of the abuses adding up - we have had it."

What are you going to do if it doesn't go your way, revolt. Again all the more reason not to allow religious icons in government buildings. You want to take away the rights of others to believe as they feel and force them to believe in your god. Apparently the government agrees with my line of thinking, not yours. Way can't you worship your god without forcing others to?




1,164 posted on 08/26/2003 5:51:45 AM PDT by commonerX
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To: commonerX
I said this before and I'll say it again how is not having religious icons in government buildings taking away your right to practice your religious beliefs.

These are not religious icons. Good grief - it is a piece of stone with the Ten Commandments written on it. How does that mean the government is saying all should believe the Ten Commandments? Why are you so afraid of the mention of God? You are probably not even in Alabama and probably would never even see those pieces of stone. They are the historical basis of our judicial system. To take them out and ban them in reality is taking God out and banning Him. Why?

There has been absolutely no attempt to make others believe anything - but only the attempt to have the freedom to keep the ability to mention God, display where we wish, do as we wish.

No matter how many times you say differently - no one - absolutely no one is or has been telling you you have to worship God. Yet, we are telling you that you do not have the right to tell us we must only speak of God in certain places.

This judgement was made by a federal judge who ignored the Alabama constitution and made a ruling that then is supposed to supercede the constitution. Now, the judge is supposed to ignore his vows and follow this law based on nothing to get you the outcome you want.

No, afraid not. I don't care about whether the Ten Commandments are displayed there - but I care about the federal government telling us where we can mention God, how we practice our holidays, how we are to teach our children that they cannot give a friend a Bible at school - it must be "outside" school. Religious freedom? Why are we to give up our religious freedom?

In the last few years we have lost the ability to mention God or Jesus in a school function, we have lost the ability to have a prayer at sports events, our schools can have any weird kind of club they want, but nothing with Jesus or God mentioned in it. A prayer club? Forget it. What message does that send to those children believing in God? What about their feelings?

We see the trend. And, you think we are fools enough to allow a judge to come in and subvert a constitutional right basing his action on nothing?

I will speak of "we" if I want, because remember - I still have a few places I can use freedom of speech.

Or, am I to ask you what I can say now too? Man, you anti-religious crowd are demanding people aren't you?

Besides, I am not just talking about me - I am talking about those that think like me - and, in fact, that is the majority in this country.

1,168 posted on 08/26/2003 9:01:01 AM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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