I said this before and I'll say it again how is not having religious icons in government buildings taking away your right to practice your religious beliefs. These are not religious icons. Good grief - it is a piece of stone with the Ten Commandments written on it. How does that mean the government is saying all should believe the Ten Commandments? Why are you so afraid of the mention of God? You are probably not even in Alabama and probably would never even see those pieces of stone. They are the historical basis of our judicial system. To take them out and ban them in reality is taking God out and banning Him. Why?
There has been absolutely no attempt to make others believe anything - but only the attempt to have the freedom to keep the ability to mention God, display where we wish, do as we wish.
No matter how many times you say differently - no one - absolutely no one is or has been telling you you have to worship God. Yet, we are telling you that you do not have the right to tell us we must only speak of God in certain places.
This judgement was made by a federal judge who ignored the Alabama constitution and made a ruling that then is supposed to supercede the constitution. Now, the judge is supposed to ignore his vows and follow this law based on nothing to get you the outcome you want.
No, afraid not. I don't care about whether the Ten Commandments are displayed there - but I care about the federal government telling us where we can mention God, how we practice our holidays, how we are to teach our children that they cannot give a friend a Bible at school - it must be "outside" school. Religious freedom? Why are we to give up our religious freedom?
In the last few years we have lost the ability to mention God or Jesus in a school function, we have lost the ability to have a prayer at sports events, our schools can have any weird kind of club they want, but nothing with Jesus or God mentioned in it. A prayer club? Forget it. What message does that send to those children believing in God? What about their feelings?
We see the trend. And, you think we are fools enough to allow a judge to come in and subvert a constitutional right basing his action on nothing?
I will speak of "we" if I want, because remember - I still have a few places I can use freedom of speech.
Or, am I to ask you what I can say now too? Man, you anti-religious crowd are demanding people aren't you?
Besides, I am not just talking about me - I am talking about those that think like me - and, in fact, that is the majority in this country.
""These are not religious icons. Good grief - it is a piece of stone with the Ten Commandments written on it. How does that mean the government is saying all should believe the Ten Commandments? Why are you so afraid of the mention of God? You are probably not even in Alabama and probably would never even see those pieces of stone. They are the historical basis of our judicial system. To take them out and ban them in reality is taking God out and banning Him. Why?""
If it isn't a religious icon why are you so bothered by its removal. I am not afraid of the mentioning of god I just don't want the government endorsing it, by placing religious icons in government buildings it is. If the ten commandments are bases of our laws why isn't adultry illegal. The bases of our laws is something know as common law and our for fathers ability to read human nature. They understood that a religious government can not ensure freedom for all.
""There has been absolutely no attempt to make others believe anything - but only the attempt to have the freedom to keep the ability to mention God, display where we wish, do as we wish.""
This is first step in making a religion an offical government one. No one ever said you can not mention god anywhere you want. If you want to go into a government building and yell "I love God" more power to you. I just don't want the government doing it. Would you be OK with Penticles, pentigrams, muslim and any other religious icon being placed in the same building? If you had to go into a courthouse, say in Ohio, and it that courthouse where references and symbols of Wicca would you be alright with that or would you feel intimidated that you might not be treated fairly.
""This judgement was made by a federal judge who ignored the Alabama constitution and made a ruling that then is supposed to supercede the constitution. Now, the judge is supposed to ignore his vows and follow this law based on nothing to get you the outcome you want""
No state constitution can supercede the federal constitution.
""No, afraid not. I don't care about whether the Ten Commandments are displayed there - but I care about the federal government telling us where we can mention God, how we practice our holidays, how we are to teach our children that they cannot give a friend a Bible at school - it must be "outside" school. Religious freedom? Why are we to give up our religious freedom?""
I don't believe the government can tell anyone where they can and can not mention god. As far as one student giving another a bible, as long as the recepient doesn't have a problem with it why should anyone else. I would have a problem with a government official doing it.
""In the last few years we have lost the ability to mention God or Jesus in a school function, we have lost the ability to have a prayer at sports events, our schools can have any weird kind of club they want, but nothing with Jesus or God mentioned in it. A prayer club? Forget it. What message does that send to those children believing in God? What about their feelings?""
As an individual or as a group you should have the right to mention god anywhere you like as long as you are not making others do it. I don't see anything wrong with a pray group at school either as long as the school doen't resrict other religions from doing it. I've been in many school clubs and the school never had a problem with them as long as they are not breaking the law or forcing others to attend. A private club is a private club but government buildings are not private all must use them.
""will speak of "we" if I want, because remember - I still have a few places I can use freedom of speech.""
You can use the word "we" but you are one person so the proper word is "I" when saying something that you believe. If you feel the need to say "we". Then I can say that we feel that you are wrong and should not be allowed to put religious icons in government buildings.
""Or, am I to ask you what I can say now too? Man, you anti-religious crowd are demanding people aren't you?""
You have no idea what religion I am.
""Besides, I am not just talking about me - I am talking about those that think like me - and, in fact, that is the majority in this country.""
Apparently not that is why the ten commadments are to be removed in Alabama and in Delaware. My wife is a teacher and she can not mention god or any religious idol unless it is in reference to history or other religions.