[rwfromkansas]

This is disgusting. These pansies don't deserve to be in robes, but instead in dresses.

[hattend]

The Pagans are high-fiving the ACLU and both groups are dancing around the redwoods and fellating each other when they get tired.

[HighWheeler]

"A federal judge had ruled the monument violates the constitution's ban on government establishment of religion and must be removed...."

There is a huge difference between the government establishing a religion and forcing it down everyone's throat under penalty of imprisonment, and the recognition of religions.

To be consistent, the next step by the ACLU will be to keep the government from giving special tax exemption to churches/religions and keep the rest of us from receiving tax deductions from giving charity to churches.

[varina davis]

The sheeple are winning. Sad.

[Roughneck]

My only comfort right now, is that in the end, Christains who put up the good fight FOR Christianity, will have a feast before them while the opposition will be watching.

These judges WILL go to Hades.

Also, are not any of the policemen that are arresting the Christians protecting the monument - Christians THEMSELVES?

If any Police Officer is called to persecute Christians, and he is christian himself, should be SHAMED.

Those officers should REFUSE to arrest the christian protesters if they are christian themselves. It is allowed, it's called civil disobediance.( or would be for a cause the left loves)

If not, they have no reason to call themselves christians - just hypocrites.

[mabelkitty]

THE SOUTH SAID THEY WERE GONNA RISE AGAIN!!

NOW'S YOUR CHANCE!!

[duckbutt]

Had a friend send this to me via e-mail:

Samuel Thompson wrote:
>
I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December.

> I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.

> Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

> If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

> If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

> If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.
>
> And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...
>
> "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

> Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.

> The silent majority has been silent too long...it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want ... it is time the majority rules!

> It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray ... you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right ... but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away ... we are
fighting back ... and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side!

> God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him...

> God bless America, despite all her faults ... still the greatest nation of all.....

> God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

> May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

> Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust

[Happy2BMe]

You know that little Supreme Court decision to uphold gay rights?

Next it will be to uphold gay mairrage rights.

Then it will be to punish any religion that counters that decision as "unlawful."

Then . . . .

[Spiff]

I'm sorry, but in all the reporting of the judges who "overruled" Judge Moore, no one has explained who the hell asked them!!?

On what point of law were they making a decision? What case? What court? What jurisdiction did they have on the particular case? Who submited the specific case upon which these judges just ruled? Upon what grounds did they make their judgement?

[wardaddy]

If I'm not mistaken, Judge Moore has to wait to see if USSC will hear the case, but they refused to stay the order to remove the monument now.

BTW, what is it many of you Catholics and Orthodox here (I'm leaving the Jews outta this) have with Protestantism and Christian Conservatives.....that is driving your zeal here, it's so transparent. You're all hiding behind some the "Separation Wall" dogma which is nothing more than living breathing document hogwash.

You wish to look at the history and how it's gone down between your sects and ours. I'm part Huguenot, you guys have a lot of gall to be judging us (falsely) for using the state to impose religion.

It's plain to me that many of you simply don't care for Protestantism....particularly that which is unashamedly culturally Conservative.

What was so wrong with Montag's posts btw?

[Aquamarine]

Rode down to Montgomery yesterday evening and arrived just after the arrest were made inside the Courthouse. Some people there told me that they closed the Courthouse at 4 instead of the usual time at 5. The people inside asked to stay then were arrested when they didn't leave.
Took some pictures with a new digital camera but I don't know how to upload the pictures that I took...actually printed this one out then scanned it in order to upload it (can anyone help me out here?). This was taken at 5:30 of the monument through the glass doors which were locked. I believe the people in the wheelchairs around it are disabled protesters that were left behind.

[ppaul]

Moore is not your typical judge. After graduating from West Point he served for five years in Vietnam before entering law school at the University of Alabama. Prior to his first judicial appointment in 1992, he studied full-contact karate, won his first kick boxing match, and completed a five-month trek across the Australian outback.

Though he has traveled widely, Moore has never strayed from his roots in Etowah County, Alabama. Growing up in what he called a “poor Christian home” and admiring a father who “lived what he believed,” Moore learned to honor God, cherish family, and love his country. Following law school, he served as deputy district attorney in Etowah County and later established his own private practice. In 1992, he was appointed Circuit Judge of the 16th Judicial Circuit, where he gained notoriety for displaying a plaque of the Ten Commandments. Then in 2000, Moore was elected to serve as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. A devout Christian and father of four children, Moore is not surprised by the controversy that has surrounded his public service. “When you do what you believe, you are going to run into problems,” he says.

Recently, PBS commentator Bill Moyers commented on Christian conservatives like Moore. “[F]or the first time in the memory of anyone alive,” he writes in a commentary posted on PBS’ website, “the entire federal government—the Congress, the Executive, the Judiciary—is united behind a right-wing agenda for which George W. Bush believes he now has a mandate.” The root cause of Moyers’ concern appears to be Christians who take their role in politics seriously: “And if you like God in government,” he added, “get ready for the Rapture. These folks don’t even mind you referring to the GOP as the party of God. Why else would the new House Majority Leader [Tom DeLay] say that the Almighty is using him to promote ‘a Biblical worldview’ in American politics?”

What Moyers and others liberals are so bothered about is not Christianity, but true Christianity, biblical Christianity, activist Christianity. Moore’s opponents—three Alabama attorneys represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Americans United for Separation of Church and State—see references to God on a monument as a threat to the establishment of the official state religion, atheism. Morris Dees, the co-founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center, even went so far as to call Moore “a religious nut.” After all, Moore is a man who, wearing his judge’s robes, can often be found citing one of his trademark poems: “Choosing godless judges, we’ve thrown reason out the door/Too soft to put a killer in a well-deserved tomb, but brave enough to kill that child before it leaves the womb/ . . . you think that God’s not angry that this land is a moral slum?”

One of Moore’s attorneys, Herbert Titus, the former dean of the law school at Regent University, said Moore’s judicial philosophy is really quite simple. Moore believes that there is a “moral foundation of law with the acknowledgment that God is the source of that foundation.”

Moore could not be more right. The sad truth is that most Americans, brainwashed by the government school system, don’t even know that the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution had no concept of the so-called “separation of church and state” that is so prevalent in today’s court system. As William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, has stated, “The separation of church and state is a metaphor based on bad history and worse law. It has made a positive chaos out of judgments, and it should be frankly and explicitly abandoned.”

When the First Amendment was being debated, the phrase “separation of church and state” was never used by the 90 men who framed it. “The First Amendment restricts only Congress,” says Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries and founder of the Center for Reclaiming America. “It was created to restrain the federal government.” Many Founding Fathers, including Patrick Henry and George Washington, refused to sign the Constitution unless it had a set of protections for the people against a potentially all-powerful federal government.

“Once we let the government believe it is the source of our liberties, we are never safe,” says Dr. Kennedy. The Declaration of Independence states the purpose of government very clearly—to secure God-given “unalienable rights.” That is the primary justification Thomas Jefferson gave for having government. Thus, apart from a recognition of God-given rights, there is no legitimate foundation for government. Indeed, government cannot be secular, because government’s purpose is to secure rights—and blessings—that come from God. And if government cannot be secular, why should we expect our elected officials to be secular?
Dr. Kennedy’s description of the true Christian statesman bears repeating here.

· First and foremost, a Christian statesman is one who repents of his sins, believes the gospel, trusts in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and invites God by His Spirit to dwell in his heart.

· Secondly, a true Christian statesman seeks to live a life guided by God’s Word and desires to make his days count for the kingdom of God.

· Finally, a true Christian statesman is one whose public and private conduct is guided by a bedrock set of principles that will not be compromised for personal or political gain. Such a person rises above partisan politics and makes the overall welfare of a nation his first priority.

In short, says Dr. Kennedy, a Christian statesman is someone whose commitment to Christ and love of country compel him to stand for truth and righteousness in government. Such a person recognizes that individuals (as well as nations) will ultimately give an account to God and are dependent on Him for prosperity and success.

Need a good picture of a Christian statesman? Then take a look at Roy Moore.

And to Justice Moore I say, “Keep on fighting the good fight.” You are not alone. As another fearless defender of the Constitution once said: “In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength” (Robert E. Lee).

by David Alan Black

http://www.southerncaucus.org/213.htm

[ZULU]

"The associate justices wrote that they are "bound by solemn oath to follow the law, whether they agree or disagree with it."


The problem here is that it is NOT the law. Its an imperial edict issued by a politically connected legal hack whose decision has no statutory basis.

The REAL problem is elected legislators and executives who have the testicles the size of peanuts and who continue to enforce these outrageous juridical mandates instead of simply IGNORING them!!!

The way things are proceeding, we won't need an elected legislature anymore except for the purpose of appointing judges who will enact the laws.


The United States is being converted from an independant free republic into a juridically run international atheistic,homosexual colony withou so much as a fight.

The men who fought and died at the Alamo, at Gettysburg, at Bunker Hill and San Juan Hill would be simply amazed.

[unixfox]

I think it's time to stop trying the judicial method and start using the mob method of justice.

The bigger the mob the better the justice.

[Egg]

It's all but official: we have a Constitutional Republic no longer. It has been slowly replaced with a democracy executed according to the whims of the judicial branch and their gauge of public opinion.

Such democracies [i.e. non-republic in nature] have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. --James Madison

A respect for law rooted in Christian morality is the only reason that our constitution hasn't been wholly trampled upon by now, but with this taking off of the gloves, there is no hope that any remaining portion of government restraint will be respected.

[P-Marlowe]

Actually the thing to do is to remove it now and then in a few months replace it with a monument to the sermon on the mount.

Then after a couple of years of litigation the courts can order it removed and then he can replace that with a monument to Genesis 1:1.

Then after a couple of years of litigation.....

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

I feel so sorry for judge Moore to find out he was surrounded by "JUDAS TIMES 8".I just hope God will send millions of people to fill that void.I just don't see how anyone can respect the courts anymore!

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Judging from some of the comments i've read here,There are a lot of liberals and those who no nothing about the way this country was established nor do they understand the American philosophy.They are the reason America is collapsing.

[JohnnyZ]

Well, it's their legal right to do, overrule the chief justice, unlike some of the extra-constitutional court rulings.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

We vote for president and we vote for members of congress,it is now time to change and get rid of this system of appointing judges.We should vote in the judges and have some kind of accountability because these people are completely out of control.

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

"Take all steps"???? I wonder how strong armed they would go to kill God? As if I didn't already know that answer. Looks like the SS in black robes are here.