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You've Got Male! (Queer Eye is an assault on hetero males)
Wall Street Journal ^
| Wednesday, August 20, 2003
| LIONEL TIGER
Posted on 08/20/2003 10:50:04 AM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: presidio9
They [males] are now only 44% of the college population. Disconcerting, for sure. ....But for guys who are currently enrolled in college, the upside is tremendous ;)
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:16:31 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: presidio9
I've never watched the show and never will. But I'm wondering how it would go if the scenario were reversed. Take 5 heterosexual men and let them give a makeover to a homosexual. Queers would pitch a hissy fit, more than likely.
To: MEGoody
Good point - it seems gays have become today's "minstrels". Good for a song, a dance, and a laugh.
Yeah queers, give us your show tunes, your skating medals, and your manicured townhomes. But stay out of our pulpits and our childrens butts.
To: presidio9
This show is hysterical. Funny as hell. Last night with the macho Port authority cop was a great episode. The episode with the member of their crew who got his Wookie like hairy back waxed was also classic. Carson the flaming fashionista is THE star of the show with the best lines.It looks like the show is drawing better ads as the ratings shine.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:21:58 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: Adder
I watch it. It's funny as hell.
45
posted on
08/20/2003 11:22:48 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: Marysecretary
They 'normalize' gay behavior and who knows what that's going to lead to with young people watching the show. Which 'gay behavior' specifically on Queer Eye are you offended by and are certain are corrupting our youth?
Cleaning up a filthy apartment, picking up your clothes, learning to cook a meal, getting pointers on manners, dressing with some style and not like a complete slob?
How horrible. (sarcasm off)
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:26:13 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: MEGoody
"I don't watch the show, but even the ads for this that I have seen make fun of both gay and straight men. For the life of me, I can't see why gays would be so thrilled with this. It makes them a laughingstock."I really don't think they care about how straight America views them. Do you think the queer bikers in assless chaps marching in the multitude of Gay Pride parades care? They have a lifestyle to promote!
This is not innocuous. This is a textbook case of normalization and cultural erosion.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:27:37 AM PDT
by
AngryJawa
(Solve the damn problem!)
To: Living Free in NH; Texaggie79; Justin Raimondo
Brown eye..?
To: presidio9
All I have to say is any guy who let these queers near them must be somewhat gay themselves.... think about it 5 flaming gay men run up to you and start pulling on your clothes and playing with your hair? What straight guy wouldn't be beating the hell out of them?
My first reaction sure as hell isn't going to be, wow, maybe I'll just stand here and let them keep undressing me.
To: finnman69
I think it's that it stereotypes hetero men as those who never "clean up a filthy apartment, pick up clothes, learn to cook a meal, get pointers on manners, dress with style, etc...?" AND that, my man, is what's degrading.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:30:47 AM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(Vote Democrat ....... pay for our drugs, travel, and total retirement life! Ha hahaha ...fools.)
To: EdReform
Researched this and found the following on the Fordham University website:
In 1987, Michael Swift was asked to contribute an editorial piece to GCN, an important gay community magazine, although well to the left of most American gay and lesbian opinion. A decade later this text, printed in the Congressional Record is repeatedly cited, apparently verbatim, by the religious right as evidence of the "Gay Agenda". The video Gay Rights, Special Rights, put out by Lou Sheldon's Traditional Values Coalition cites it with ominous music and picture of children. But when the religious rights cites this text, they always omit, as does the Congressional record, the vital first line, which sets the context for the piece. In other words, every other version of this found on the net is part of the radical right's great lie about gay people. For a discussion of the whole "Gay vs. Religious Right" phenomenon see Chris Bull and John Gallagher: Perfect Enemies: The Religious Right, the Gay Movement, and the Politics of the 1990s, (New York: Crown, 1996)
What is the vital first line?
This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.
Why does this NOT make me feel less worried about the piece.
To: finnman69
I am on a couple of (mostly female) message boards...
The women I know on the boards LOVE this show...and most wish their SO would get a make-over from these guys.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:32:18 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: HamiltonJay
The Staten Island guido Port Authority cop with the really hot girlfriend on the show last night was definitely not gay. Nor was the hairy backed slob (with the extensive porn collection and a girlfriend) who works on the production team that was made over.
And these two showed the most overt repulsion to being around gay men than any other episodes.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:32:49 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: najida
I bet they are getting flooded with requests from girlfriends to get their boyfreinds or husbands made over on the show.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:34:06 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: finnman69
Yep,
from what I gather, they are.....
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:35:31 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: goodnesswins
I think it's that it stereotypes hetero men as those who never "clean up a filthy apartment, pick up clothes, learn to cook a meal, get pointers on manners, dress with style, etc...?" AND that, my man, is what's degrading. Hmmmmmm, what stereotype? I have a clean well decorated apartment, keep things clean, am a great cook, dress with style, have good manners and I managed this without the help of homosexual tutors!!!!!
So what's the harm of the show?
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:37:35 AM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: Adder
Why would anyone vote for Algore?
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:37:39 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
(Judge Moore for the Supreme Court)
To: GrandMoM
"it is a insult to the white hetrosexual male!!!!!!!!" Why isn't it an insult to non-white heterosexual males?
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:38:04 AM PDT
by
olorin
To: HamiltonJay
What straight guy wouldn't be beating the hell out of them?
Take a chill pill. The show's done for laughs and the guys end up cleaning up their slobby lifestyles. Last night's one with the cop was pretty good. Before the show his attire consisted mainly of tank tops in white and ones with sports logos on them.
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posted on
08/20/2003 11:39:08 AM PDT
by
lelio
To: finnman69
Sorry, anyone voluntarily letting 5 flaming queers tug at their clothes and play with their hair without decking them, sure ain't a man in my book.
I have nothing against gay people, but I am telling you, only a wimp would not deck someone if 5 flaming guys who you have never met come running up to you and start pulling on your clothes and playing with your hair. Sorry, but my first reaction isn't to sit there and let them. At least one of them will be lying on their anorexic faux pleather ass that ever happened to me.
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