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Survey: Cable costs more, offers less
Yahoo! News / USA Today ^ | 8/20/03 | Michael McCarthy

Posted on 08/20/2003 7:35:17 AM PDT by UB355

For the first time, cable TV subscribers are spending more on services each month than satellite TV subscribers, but they still aren't as happy as their satellite counterparts, according to a study released Tuesday

Consumers now pay an average of $48.93 a month for satellite services from DirecTV and the Dish Network vs. $49.62 for services from cable operations, according to J.D. Power and Associates' 2003 Residential Cable/Satellite TV Customer Satisfaction Study. The study surveyed 133,000 consumers nationwide.

Subscribers gave both satellite services higher marks for overall satisfaction than cable subscribers on six factors: reliability, cost, billing, promotions, image and customer service.

The average monthly tab for cable TV is up 41% since 1998 vs. 8% for satellite TV. Much of that has been driven by larger rate increases as cable operators spent money to upgrade networks. But the study also indicates some consumers have been willing to pay cable operators more for services available from the upgrades such as digital TV, video on demand, high-definition TV and broadband.

When it comes to customer satisfaction, however, consumers ranked DirecTV and Dish Network as the top two companies in the survey. Cable firms Cablevision and Adelphia ranked last out of 13 satellite and cable providers listed in the survey.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cable; satellite
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To: bobsatwork
COMCAST must be a mirror image of Time-Warner.
41 posted on 08/20/2003 11:13:28 AM PDT by oyez (Do ya' think?:)
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To: Physicist
Doesn't Comcast own the Flyers and/or the Spectrum?

Sounds like they don't want to play nice with others and are basically holding you hockey fans hostage.

That sucks. I can get Fox Sports on my dish.

SD

42 posted on 08/20/2003 11:24:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: xsrdx
I can change my ENTIRE programming package, order pay per view, or pay my bill, in 2 minutes online.

Same here. My wife is addicted ti "Six Feet Under" on HBO, but with DSS I can order HBO the night I need it and cancel it immediately after the last show. Any program package change is done within a few minutes.

43 posted on 08/20/2003 11:28:12 AM PDT by js1138
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To: general_re
For whatever reason, DirecTV is carrying Comcast SportsNet Mid Atlantic for the Baltimore/DC area, but not the Philly version of Comcast SportsNet for subscribers there. Strange.

Not so strange. Here's the deal. Comcast owns the Flyers and Sixers. While they want everyone to subscribe to Comcast, they know that not everyone who wants to watch the Flyers and Sixers games will (or can) subscribe to Comcast. Comcast still wants those eyeballs on the games. Accordingly, they cut deals with the other Philly area cable providers that they would carry CSN, provided that Comcast not make the channel available to satellite providers. They all know where the real threat lies.

Personally, I don't care. I don't voluntarily watch much TV anyway, and I have no complaints about RCN. Well, OK, one complaint. When the cable goes out (as cables do), I lose the phone service, too. :-( It's only happened once, though.

44 posted on 08/20/2003 11:32:22 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: SoothingDave
Ping on #44.
45 posted on 08/20/2003 11:33:06 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: tcostell
I installed my Dish Network dish myself. Works great! No complaints here.
46 posted on 08/20/2003 11:39:21 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Budge
Ping!
48 posted on 08/20/2003 11:40:26 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: tear_down_this_wall
As someone else pointed out, it is illegal for a homeowners association, landlord, city, county, etc., to prohibit you from installing a small satellite dish. You can tell them to stick it.
49 posted on 08/20/2003 11:41:09 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: 782gear
Sports, why you can't affoord to get a ticket is your paying to get it on your screen

On the contrary, basic economics tells us that if sports were not available on TV, the box office price would increase dramatically.

SD

50 posted on 08/20/2003 11:44:44 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Physicist
Well, okay, but there was an identical situation up in Buffalo until recently - up until the Rigas family landed in hot water with their creative accounting and stock techniques, they owned Adelphia, the local cable provider in Buffalo, and the Sabres. Adelphia owned (still does, actually) Empire Sports Network, the cable channel that broadcasts the Sabres, and they could have done exactly what Comcast did with the Flyers - redistribute ESN only to other cable providers, but not the satellite companies, but they didn't. Empire Sports and the Sabres games were and are available to Buffalo satellite subscribers via both major satellite providers.

Which makes sense for the Sabres end of the business - people want to watch the games, so you want to maximize the ways in which they can do so. But it's a tradeoff, as you point out - satellite dishes were sprouting like mushrooms after a rainstorm when I was up there, because Adelphia service, as this article points out, is awful, and way too damn expensive for what you get in return...

51 posted on 08/20/2003 11:54:11 AM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: Hank Rearden
You have a point but it is not an issue for me. Our kids are grown and need to have only two sets wired up at once. I use the cable wiring and move the satellite box around as needed.
52 posted on 08/20/2003 12:44:49 PM PDT by UB355
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To: xsrdx
most "digital" cable is only partly fiber - it may stil travel over considerable coax, and analog switches, to get to your box, degrading the signal.

A degraded digital signal is a horrible thing to see. It isn't a graceful decay of picture quality like an analog signal starting to pick up noise. It is major dropouts, glarring noise, etc. That's because a digital fault can hit a most-significant-bit just as easily as a least-significant-bit.

As for fiber versus coax, they both have signal attenuation over distance and therefore require reamplification (aka limiter or quantitizer) at the receiving end. In the analog world, this introduces noise. In the digital realm, if the noise is below the trigger threshold, it is completely eliminated. That's why digital signals don't degrade -- up until the point they just go to complete h*ll.

53 posted on 08/20/2003 1:24:58 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: HamiltonJay
THey can't turn basic cable off and have cable modem work...

They can and they often do. They put either a pass filter or a stop filter out at the box on your line.

54 posted on 08/20/2003 1:27:35 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Well they don't around here, basic cable isn't blocked with cable mode... first 13 or 21 channels work without any problem if you get a cable modem without paying a dime more.
55 posted on 08/20/2003 1:31:03 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: tcostell
Good Luck!! Just don't get Charter Cable. Thaey offer graet service on high speed internet but their "digital" cable is joke, which borders on public fraud.

I "sold" back my dish network system for $300 cash to them and a reduced everything package for $33/month when I lived in Klamath Falls, Oregon. They didn't show half of the advertised Mariner games (the season they won 116 games) and I had multiple ghosts images on all the local network stations.

Of course they only person who told me that the first 100 channels are not digital was the repair man. The people that work for the cable outfits are completely brainwashed. I got into an arguement with the VP of customer service with Charter and he tried to tell me that I could not have possibly had all the stuff that dish network offered. I asked him if he had ever experienced sat. tv and he said no of course!!!

56 posted on 08/20/2003 2:01:18 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: UB355
Sheesh! I thought I stumbled upon one of those WOD ping posts. Well, since I'm here anyway, there's one thing I noticed:

Consumers now pay an average of $48.93 a month for satellite services from DirecTV and the Dish Network vs. $49.62 for services from cable operations

ooh, a whopping 69 cents. Cable is still better. I have my phone service, cable modem, and tv on the same bill each month. And I don't have to have one of those stupid looking dishes on my house.

57 posted on 08/20/2003 2:06:51 PM PDT by BSunday
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To: UB355
Wish I didn't have so many trees - I'd give it a go with a satellite and save money.
58 posted on 08/20/2003 2:08:27 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("what if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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To: 1Old Pro
I've had DISH network for almost 4 years. It's been fantastic. I pay $32 for their top 100 channels and I get a dozen or so digital music channels. I couldn't be happier.

I pay $37, but that includes high definition channels, and ole Chrlie Ergen says more high definition channels are on the way. Watch Charlie chat on Sept 8th.

59 posted on 08/20/2003 2:10:09 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: gathersnomoss
Is there an alternative while using DirectTV for the slime box?

DSL service?

60 posted on 08/20/2003 2:13:02 PM PDT by Mark17
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