Carelessness and Casualness in worship

The Middletown Bible Church ^ | 08/19/03 | various authors

[RaceBannon]

Baptize America ito Christ? Did oyu think I was Mormon or something??

[biblewonk]

The Way We Dress Should Show That We Honor the Lord!

I hate churches with dress codes.

[hellinahandcart]

It is the LACK of dressing up that shows where the people's heart is, the jeans, shorts, sandals, t-shirts with wild sayings on it...

The other extreme, trying to display wealth, can equally show where the heart is.

My point is that both are affectations.

[biblewonk]

Does not our Lord Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church, deserve as much consideration and respect as our President? Does not your pastor deserve that much respect for his message?

This is the same "reason" that RC's use to invent Mary.

[RaceBannon]

I was attending a Baptist church for a couple of years, tried to explain some things that I saw to the Pastor, he agreed, but no one went along with him.

The dress was too casual, kids were never disciplined, music was still ok, but, carelessness in worship was only a symptom of what was in the people's hearts.

I was amazed to hear someone who was supposed to be the Church evangelist, his teaching was just shouting, not Bible based at all.

I ran back to the church I attend now. (I had been gone for 4 years, boy, I should have never left it!) And I learned why they did the things the did and how: I saw the result of not doing those things.

That Baptist Pastor just left that church, he gave up on them! That was last April.

[RaceBannon]

You, as a man, are trying to teach people that it does not matter at all what the music sounds like, what they dress like...I, as a man, want to see people stand in fear and reverence before God, showing in their outward appearance what is inside their heart as a way to let people they were genuinely changed because of receiving Salvation...which of us is following the Bible again?

[hellinahandcart]

Sounds like a great place to go !

Time will tell now, it's an Episcopal church...

[HiTech RedNeck]

I mean things like the recent Ten Commandments monument flap in Alabama. I really, truly believe Moore means well. But it's putting the cart before the horse. God will move Christianity back into secular government if and when He wants to. Before that time, all the Christian piety that can be mustered in the land won't accomplish anything. When that time comes, a whispered sermon without amplification by candlelight will suffice.

[RaceBannon]

It is a personal dress code, not the Church, unless yu walk in with a tank top and slit skirt or somethng totally imodest. That Chruch that does not speak out against such clothing is not a Church that God is in.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I am sorry, I do not agree with one thing of yours which IS poor, blind, and naked -- your judgmentalism.

[Elsie]

Hey as I said for me it comes from my upbringing.

I understand.

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I'm an old fuddy-duddy myself, and this stuff the kids are listening to will be mainstream in a few years. Too much bangin' and crashin' for MY tastes; but that's ALL it is: my TASTE.

There probably are WORDS that go with the notes as well, but I can't make them out!

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What I DO NOT like, is the long-winded, seemingly endless repetition of short phrases over and over again. Gimme some MEAT in my words, not some filler that takes second place to the music, not some modern manta set to music.

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What is amusing (and sad) is that about 10-11 years ago, we had a young youth leader. After about 3-4 months on the job (the kids were quite fond of him and his wife), he shows up one Sunday morning with a HORRORS!!!! small EARRING!!!!

You KNOW what happened!! the old 'saints' almost called for an exorcism, right then and there!!!

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Cut to chase, we decide to let the YP go on to 'greener pastures' and ORDER was restored.

Now what do we have? You know...... the kids sport earrings, tongue studs, eyebrow rings, tattoos and guess what? the ROOF has NOT fallen in. They are praising God and growing in the Lord, just as they did 'back in the GoodOlDays'.

[RaceBannon]

Since it is about respect for the worship time, how is that related to Mary? No one is praying to the Pastor.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You accuse people of twisting your words, yet you twist mine. Obviously there is an extreme downside as well.

[Rebelbase]

You have fallen and are stuck in Religion rather than being free to accept the fullness of the Holy Spirit.

CCM is a Godsend for bringing youth into church. I have attended CCM festivals and have personally witnessed 12,000 youth confessing with their mouth that Jesus Christ is their Savior. CCM festivals bring Youth into a setting where they can see on a massive scale that their faith and commitment to Christ is shared by others in their peer group and they are not alone....as our public schools, Government and mainstream culture would lead them to believe.

According to Race Bannon these kids are grieving God because they have gathered to worship Him at a CCM festival.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You aren't distinguish your CUSTOM from the hard requirements of the scriptures. CAN dress make a difference, yes. MUST dress make a difference, no!

One service I remember as one of the most worshipful I've been to was a Singspiration I visited in a little Baptist church in Albuquerque, New Mexico. They had a guy playing an electric guitar and wearing a Harley Davidson tee shirt! (It did have a nice eagle on it.) I didn't even pay attention to that; the Spirit focused us wonderfully upon the Lord.

[fightinJAG]

I work everyday at "showing it on the outside."

But by "it" I mean the fact that I am focused on loving God with all my heart and mind and soul and strength and loving my neighbor as myself.

I cannot show that "it" through what I wear. I have to show it through what I do and how I live.

The world doesn't see "it" because believers dress up when they go into a building and close the doors and do their thing.

The world only has the chance to see "it" when believers live "it" in their daily lives.

[PleaseNoMore]

What do you define as a "revival"?

Revival should take place in us all daily. A renewing of our hearts and minds. A quickening of our spirits. Maybe we don't understand true revival at all. It is so much more than holding a group of sermons for a week in the summer.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The young ladies who dress extremely like that are generally not being charitable (showing agape) to their fellow congregants, especially the males. That will tend to interfere with worship, both theirs and others.

[Taliesan]

If Michael W. Smith ever gets played at the church I attend, it can be assumed to be after the rapture!

I lead the congregation in his "How Majestic is Thy Name" all the time.

[Quix]

THANKS TONS!

God's best to you and all your close relationships.

Just my experience, observations and sense of The Word.