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Tancredo calls illegal immigration threat to U.S.
gjsentinel ^ | 08.16.03 | GARY HARMON

Posted on 08/16/2003 7:09:51 PM PDT by VU4G10

Illegal immigration into the United States threatens the future of the nation, a Colorado congressman told Mesa County Republicans on Friday.

 U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Centennial, drew two standing ovations from about 100 Republicans, even though he acknowledged his stand on illegal immigration runs counter to that of the party's leader, President Bush.

 Forcing a national debate over illegal immigration transcends party loyalty though, he said. At issue, he said, isn't so much whether the United States will have a Balkanized future, but whether it will have a future as a nation at all.

 Illegal immigration combined with "the cult of multiculturalism" and the welfare state threaten to undermine and bankrupt American institutions, he said.

 Tancredo joked that he actually was on his way to California to get in on the governor's race. In an exclusive interview with The Daily Sentinel, however, he said the stakes actually are a bit higher than a governor's race.

 He has visited California on several occasions with the hope of forcing illegal immigration to a top-level issue in the 2004 presidential race.

 One vehicle, he said, might be a referendum in the nation's most populous state that would limit access to any government services to citizens or legal residents only.

 "Even if I'm 180 degrees wrong," he said, "the subject at least deserves a debate."

 Tancredo said he advocates securing the nation's southern border using a 20,000-strong Border Patrol combined with high-tech equipment to prevent illegal border crossings.

 A guest-worker program might be in order for industries that couldn't otherwise find employees, but no such program could work without a secure border, he said.

 It's particularly important to secure the border, he said, because it isn't used only by Mexicans seeking employment.

 "Huge numbers" of Middle-Easterners frequently cross the border, often helped by Mexican drug gangs who charge $30,000 for the use of their expertise, he said.

 "I don't blame them," he said of illegal immigrants looking north for opportunity, but he noted the Mexican government relies heavily on money sent by illegal immigrants to their relatives to bolster the economy.

 That amounts to about $10 billion a year, a third of the Mexican gross domestic product, he said.

 Tancredo urged the Mesa County Republicans to insist that all candidates be held to account on illegal-immigration issues.

 Even if offices such as city council or county commissioner seem to have little to do with illegal immigration, candidates still should be forced to take a position.

 "Get them on record," he said.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aztlaniscoming; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigration; multiculturalism; tancredo; threats; us
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To: ArneFufkin
Tancredo wants 20,000 Border Guards on the Mexican border. At $50,000 per, that's $1 billion in salaries and benefits.

P> According to FOX News, “Last spring, he launched an e-mail petition drive calling for the deployment of as many as 20,000 federal troops to the 6,000 miles of northern and southern U.S borders.”

So, that was for both borders. Plus, $50K sounds a little high for a typical soldier. Where did you get that number?

OK, just for kicks, let’s say it costs a billion a year; That’s about $10 per taxpayer. With all the stupid things Bush has been spending our money on, (including sending $15 billion of our money to Africa just because those people can’t it through their heads that you’re not suppose to stick things where they don’t belong) I’d say $10 is a great deal.

If the federal government won’t perform one of its most basic and vital functions - protecting out borders, then tell me where to send my $10 to someone who will. I’ll even make it $20 to make up for people like you.

A country that does not enforce the security of its borders ceases to be a nation!

81 posted on 08/17/2003 11:49:12 AM PDT by Barnacle (And, as the world grew smaller, America found itself living in a bad neighborhood)
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To: ArneFufkin
" In 40 years, there'll be forum where Americans of Mexican heritage will be bitching about the surge of Trinidaddios and Tobagoneers taking their jobs and not assimilating into American culture."

In 40 years, America will be so balkanized and socialistic as to be unrecognizable. Currently, it's barely the Constitutional Republic it was designed to be. Glad I'll be dead.

82 posted on 08/17/2003 12:05:36 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (Government is the problem, not the solution.)
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To: rdb3

P.S., Where did you get that list?

83 posted on 08/17/2003 12:07:13 PM PDT by Barnacle (And, as the world grew smaller, America found itself living in a bad neighborhood)
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To: ArneFufkin
Oh, but Arnie. Don't you know this is all 100 percent Bush's fault?
/sarcasm

Don't spoil the illusion, man. What will all the screamers have to whine about here on FR?

84 posted on 08/17/2003 12:12:22 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: A Navy Vet
Glad I'll be dead.

With my luck, I’ll still be alive and at the mercy of those Bolsheviks. Even if I’m not, I expect my children and grandchildren will be. That is if they survive the UN re-education camps.

85 posted on 08/17/2003 12:13:08 PM PDT by Barnacle (Because people don't take jokes seriously, the UN is worse than a joke.)
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To: The Coopster
What will all the screamers have to whine about here on FR?

If we’re screaming, it’s because we’re not blind, deaf or dumb.

86 posted on 08/17/2003 12:16:11 PM PDT by Barnacle (Because people don't take jokes seriously, the UN is worse than a joke.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
No Luis, but you have to at least admit that 90 percent of the people who climb onto these threads have zero to add, except laying this all at the Presidents feet - which is completely misguided.

And probably close to half of them hate Hispanics period, so they'll never have anything productive to add. I think that's where Arnie s coming from.
87 posted on 08/17/2003 12:19:06 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Barnacle
Those that lay it all at Bush's feet aren't blind or deaf, I'll agree.
88 posted on 08/17/2003 12:20:07 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster
[It's particularly important to secure the border, he said, because it isn't used only by Mexicans seeking employment.

"Huge numbers" of Middle-Easterners frequently cross the border, often helped by Mexican drug gangs who charge $30,000 for the use of their expertise, he said.]

This is not about hating Hispanics, it is about protecting our country and jobs. Many Hispanic American citizens are for better border control.
89 posted on 08/17/2003 12:26:36 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: ArneFufkin
Do you know what their going wage is? Do you know if they earn LESS than an 'American citizen' would? Do you know if they have 'American taxes' deducted...or are they paid 'under the table'?

Just curious.

90 posted on 08/17/2003 12:29:05 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Missing the point of my post alert!

I don't disagree one bit about needeing to change the current border setup.

Maybe you don't fall into the percentages I mentioned. That's great. I'm talking about people who do, i.e. bigots and people too unaware/dense to understand how things work to blame anyone but Bush.
91 posted on 08/17/2003 12:31:54 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
And I suspect most of the misguided ones are simply bitter because their particular candidate didn't get chosen to run in 2000.
92 posted on 08/17/2003 12:33:21 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: ArneFufkin; Elliott Gigantalope
I've never understood why these mandates, approved by millions of Californians, are allowed to be nullified by the fiat of a single judge.

You and me both. And apparently Elliott Gigantalope as well. Defies logic.

93 posted on 08/17/2003 12:43:18 PM PDT by arasina (A place is what YOU make it.)
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To: The Coopster
Those that lay it all at Bush's feet aren't blind or deaf, I'll agree.

Subtlety isn't effective with most visitors to this type of thread. :o)

94 posted on 08/17/2003 12:56:05 PM PDT by arasina (A place is what YOU make it.)
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To: ArneFufkin
There is no limit to the number of honest, hard working, productive and inspired individuals that are welcome in America. No limit, ever. We've got room for hundreds of millions more.

Maybe if the vast majority of these hundreds of millions of additional immigrants that you feel we have room for primarily settled in areas in those states that still have a lot of wide open spaces such as Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Alaska, and parts of Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, then maybe it could be workable. But if most of these hundreds of millions of additional immigrants follow the pattern of past immgrants and settle primarily in our major cities, then it would become hellish for all big city residents, Americans and immigrants alike.

95 posted on 08/17/2003 1:28:50 PM PDT by usadave
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To: usadave
It already is unworkable and filthy in our biggest cities due to unrestricted illegal immigration.

PS, don't feed those trolls ;)
96 posted on 08/17/2003 2:20:06 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: The Coopster
The Brigader/Paleo jacknobs consider fear and loathing a virtue. No, they consider it a political platform.
97 posted on 08/17/2003 2:26:00 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: usadave
So you're advocating not 1 more immigrant period? Legal or no?

98 posted on 08/17/2003 2:35:11 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Imagine
Which of these 18 things can George W. Bush accomplish through Executive Branch directives alone?
99 posted on 08/17/2003 2:39:10 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: The Coopster
And probably close to half of them hate Hispanics period,

Just for the record, I don't hate anyone, except Commies.

What many others and I object to is the simple fact many Hispanics are coming here illegally. They are criminals by their very presence here. Are politicians are not doing anything about it. I believe it's because many of them are bought off by interests who are profiting by the presence of illegal aliens.

That's what I have a problem with. I believe that some here on FR who don't what to hear it have a vested interests and ulterior motives as well.

100 posted on 08/17/2003 2:40:32 PM PDT by Barnacle (Because people don't take jokes seriously, the UN is worse than a joke.)
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